Luis Suarez - scumbag

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Heysel

[cmonurz]

the HNA scouse massive

lol @ HNA scouse massive.
IF there are hoards of people on here who in fact support Liverpool, then why are they on here?
They can oxf*rd right off to the liverpool board and stay there.

There's always going to be gloryhunters.
LFC glory hunters came about in the 70s-80s when they had the successful spell, and then more recently a bunch of youth glory hunters joined forces with them when they had the champions league success.
You'll see 13-year olds on message boards spouting shit like "everyone at Heysel was just London snobs, nobody from Liverpool were there", I'm just sat there gobsmacked, what the hell do they know, they weren't even born, and what the hell kind of lame excusemaking is that shit.
Then they'll follow that up with "high society in London is always putting us down, they don't like us" bla bla blah.

I've never been on the Liverpool discussion boards, but it seems obvious to me that if this sort of bullshit is spreading far and wide, even to the most obscure messageboards, they must have some kind of radical rhetoric conspiracy theory bullshit spreading like cancer on their messageboards.

The simple truth is:
Liverpool fans are cvnts.

More ranting and frothing.

You also find a 30-odd year old Chelsea fan trolling an RFC discussion board with comments like "murderers". Presumably you don't consider that to be "bullshit", because "Liverpool fans are cnuts."

It's pathetic.

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Seriously cmonurz, what are your views on Scousers needing to accept part of the blame for that day??

[cmonurz]

Not all Liverpool fans are Scousers. ‘Blame’ is an evocative word – a lot of circumstances combined to create the tragic disaster that unfolded.

If you look plainly at the physical actions of the fans, in streaming into the stand, that was the cause of the crush. But only an utter tool tries to dress that up as hordes of angry, maniacal fans storming the stadium without due regard for others’ safety – the police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them. I don’t know all the ins and outs of what has been debated since, but if I’d lost someone at Hillsborough, I’m sure I’d want to feel comfortable that all of the facts of the day had been properly investigated and understood.

Anyway, my point was the use of things like Hillsborough, Heysel etc is disturbing, offensive, and childish beyond that you would expect of sane adults. You only have to look at this page to see that people involved or who have suffered loss in these incidents are never too far away.

[cmonurz]

What the hell, cmonurz you don't reply to anything in my post, and strawman something about Chelsea fans.
I've said nothing about Chelsea fans, and I could care less, as far as I'm concerned they are also gloryhunting kids.

Can you please explain why it is acceptable for liverpool fans to claim that only people from London were responsible for Heysel?

You have an issue with people posting bullshit about Heysel – another side of that coin is other people posting bullshit about Heysel/Hillsborough whatever. It's not straw-manning to highlight that when you've posted after a few posts of mine deriding the 'anti-Liverpool' nature of posts on this thread rather than discussion of Suarez.

As for the bit in bold, I never said it was.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Strawman, strawman, strawman. Strawman. Straaawwmaaaan. Strawmanstrawmanstrawman.

Strawman.

You sure like strawmen.

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But only an utter tool tries to dress that up as hordes of angry, maniacal fans storming the stadium without due regard for others’ safety

I don't see many people saying that. Surely by groups of fans forcing their way into a stadium, whether they're angry or have a spastic8ed smile on their face, is not regarding anyones safety. It's not as if it was a suprise to these crowds of people that stands were segreg8ed and fenced in this way. The Pooool had a bit of a rep for it (not the only ones before you say) and it could quite possibly have happened to any club but on that day mix in shite policing and large crowds dwtw, it's a recipe for disaster

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the HNA scouse massive

lol @ HNA scouse massive.
IF there are hoards of people on here who in fact support Liverpool, then why are they on here?
They can oxf*rd right off to the liverpool board and stay there.

There's always going to be gloryhunters.
LFC glory hunters came about in the 70s-80s when they had the successful spell, and then more recently a bunch of youth glory hunters joined forces with them when they had the champions league success.
You'll see 13-year olds on message boards spouting shit like "everyone at Heysel was just London snobs, nobody from Liverpool were there", I'm just sat there gobsmacked, what the hell do they know, they weren't even born, and what the hell kind of lame excusemaking is that shit.
Then they'll follow that up with "high society in London is always putting us down, they don't like us" bla bla blah.

I've never been on the Liverpool discussion boards, but it seems obvious to me that if this sort of bullshit is spreading far and wide, even to the most obscure messageboards, they must have some kind of radical rhetoric conspiracy theory bullshit spreading like cancer on their messageboards.

The simple truth is:
Liverpool fans are cvnts.

Don't you live in Greenland or somewhere so presumably never see Reading play?
And yet you come on here,a Reading message board, telling people what they should or shouldn't do.
You're as odd as the two dimwit Man Utd and Chelsea fans.

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Not all Liverpool fans are Scousers. ‘Blame’ is an evocative word – a lot of circumstances combined to create the tragic disaster that unfolded.

If you look plainly at the physical actions of the fans, in streaming into the stand, that was the cause of the crush. But only an utter tool tries to dress that up as hordes of angry, maniacal fans storming the stadium without due regard for others’ safety – the police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them. I don’t know all the ins and outs of what has been debated since, but if I’d lost someone at Hillsborough, I’m sure I’d want to feel comfortable that all of the facts of the day had been properly investigated and understood.

Anyway, my point was the use of things like Hillsborough, Heysel etc is disturbing, offensive, and childish beyond that you would expect of sane adults. You only have to look at this page to see that people involved or who have suffered loss in these incidents are never too far away.

A pure case of Liverpool fans needing to get over themselves.

If anyone mentions Liverpool fans had some part to blame at Hillsbrough or Heysel, then it's 'disturbing, offensive, childish'.

Everyone agrees these incidents were tragic and going back, nobody wanted these things to happen. But Liverpool fans need to hold their hands up and agree 'some' of their fans were partly to blame for these incidents. But they won't!

Then we go around in circles again because, we're so out of order to even suggest Liverpool fans played their part.

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the HNA scouse massive

lol @ HNA scouse massive.
IF there are hoards of people on here who in fact support Liverpool, then why are they on here?
They can oxf*rd right off to the liverpool board and stay there.

There's always going to be gloryhunters.
LFC glory hunters came about in the 70s-80s when they had the successful spell, and then more recently a bunch of youth glory hunters joined forces with them when they had the champions league success.
You'll see 13-year olds on message boards spouting shit like "everyone at Heysel was just London snobs, nobody from Liverpool were there", I'm just sat there gobsmacked, what the hell do they know, they weren't even born, and what the hell kind of lame excusemaking is that shit.
Then they'll follow that up with "high society in London is always putting us down, they don't like us" bla bla blah.

I've never been on the Liverpool discussion boards, but it seems obvious to me that if this sort of bullshit is spreading far and wide, even to the most obscure messageboards, they must have some kind of radical rhetoric conspiracy theory bullshit spreading like cancer on their messageboards.

The simple truth is:
Liverpool fans are cvnts.

More ranting and frothing.

You also find a 30-odd year old Chelsea fan trolling an RFC discussion board with comments like "murderers". Presumably you don't consider that to be "bullshit", because "Liverpool fans are cnuts."

It's pathetic.

So Liverpool fans at Heysel didn't storm towards the Juve fans causing the terracing to collapse killing 39 fans? Comourz, rewriting history.

[cmonurz]

Not all Liverpool fans are Scousers. ‘Blame’ is an evocative word – a lot of circumstances combined to create the tragic disaster that unfolded.

If you look plainly at the physical actions of the fans, in streaming into the stand, that was the cause of the crush. But only an utter tool tries to dress that up as hordes of angry, maniacal fans storming the stadium without due regard for others’ safety – the police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them. I don’t know all the ins and outs of what has been debated since, but if I’d lost someone at Hillsborough, I’m sure I’d want to feel comfortable that all of the facts of the day had been properly investigated and understood.

Anyway, my point was the use of things like Hillsborough, Heysel etc is disturbing, offensive, and childish beyond that you would expect of sane adults. You only have to look at this page to see that people involved or who have suffered loss in these incidents are never too far away.

A pure case of Liverpool fans needing to get over themselves.

If anyone mentions Liverpool fans had some part to blame at Hillsbrough or Heysel, then it's 'disturbing, offensive, childish'.

Everyone agrees these incidents were tragic and going back, nobody wanted these things to happen. But Liverpool fans need to hold their hands up and agree 'some' of their fans were partly to blame for these incidents. But they won't!

Then we go around in circles again because, we're so out of order to even suggest Liverpool fans played their part.

You’re presenting your posts like they are an attempt at proper debate. When you post things about blaming fans for football tragedies on a discussion about Luis Suarez, you clearly aren’t looking for such a debate. As you well know, and as your post above about Heysel proves.

Grow up, you utter tool.

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There it is. We know I'm right as Comonurz is clearly rattLOLed in this deb8. He has no response because he knows I'm right, so has resulted to personal insults.

It's all related back to the Suarez racism g8 - as liverpool don't accept the blame for anything.

[FiNeRaIn]

Nthe police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them..

This nonsense continues to be spouted. You yourself as a fan have a DUTY to consider the safety of others. Liverpool fans without tickets KNOWINGLY forced their way into the ground...others were let in without tickets...these people KNEW this isn't common place in football. Stop claiming ignorance. Yes the police failed...don't disagree..the fans failed their fallen friends also. Its repulsive how liverpool fans ignore this.

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Nthe police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them..

This nonsense continues to be spouted. You yourself as a fan have a DUTY to consider the safety of others. Liverpool fans without tickets KNOWINGLY forced their way into the ground...

I'm sure you're just having a bit of fun, but if my memory is correct, the total number of people in the Leppings Lane end was below the stand's capacity, but the fans that were there weren't directed away from the two already full pens.

[FiNeRaIn]

Nthe police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them..

This nonsense continues to be spouted. You yourself as a fan have a DUTY to consider the safety of others. Liverpool fans without tickets KNOWINGLY forced their way into the ground...

I'm sure you're just having a bit of fun, but if my memory is correct, the total number of people in the Leppings Lane end was below the stand's capacity, but the fans that were there weren't directed away from the two already full pens.

I'm not having any fun, the subject is not for entertainment value.The police clearly made mistakes that day...everyone accepts this. These mistakes were not malicious or intended and neither were the actions of fellow fans who crushed their own spporters by forcing in. Why can't people just see it for the accident it was?

[RobRoyal]

Nthe police and security suffered massive failings on the day which let the incident take place at all. They had a responsibility to the fans and failed them..

This nonsense continues to be spouted. You yourself as a fan have a DUTY to consider the safety of others. Liverpool fans without tickets KNOWINGLY forced their way into the ground...

I'm sure you're just having a bit of fun, but if my memory is correct, the total number of people in the Leppings Lane end was below the stand's capacity, but the fans that were there weren't directed away from the two already full pens.

I believe this correct. If that's Finerain's idea of a bit of fun...

[FiNeRaIn]

You're both stupid, so far I have been accused of " foaming with anger" now having a " bit of fun" when its neither...im engaging in a debate but there are some seriously naive and anti-establishment views on here.

Tragic accident...horrible to see...why must it be a hunt to name, shame and ruin the lives of people who although they made mistakes they were not malicious or intended? Typical of modern day society and revenge im afraid.

[RobRoyal]

You're both stupid, so far I have been accused of " foaming with anger" now having a " bit of fun" when its neither...im engaging in a debate but there are some seriously naive and anti-establishment views on here.

Tragic accident...horrible to see...why must it be a hunt to name, shame and ruin the lives of people who although they made mistakes they were not malicious or intended? Typical of modern day society and revenge im afraid.

Lord Taylor was a proper anti-establishment figure was he?

[Royal Rother]

What's his log in name?

[Bandini]

This nonsense continues to be spouted. You yourself as a fan have a DUTY to consider the safety of others. Liverpool fans without tickets KNOWINGLY forced their way into the ground...

I'm sure you're just having a bit of fun, but if my memory is correct, the total number of people in the Leppings Lane end was below the stand's capacity, but the fans that were there weren't directed away from the two already full pens.

I'm not having any fun, the subject is not for entertainment value.The police clearly made mistakes that day...everyone accepts this. These mistakes were not malicious or intended and neither were the actions of fellow fans who crushed their own spporters by forcing in. Why can't people just see it for the accident it was?

The fans didn't knowingly force their way into the ground.

If you're now making a different point about fans forcing their way into the pens which were already full, this is something which pretty much every fan will have done when trying to get onto the terrace at a busy game. It always seems like there's room for one more person unless you're told that the terrace is full which should have been done. It's not exactly hounding the police (or those in charge of safety at the ground) to point this out.