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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Handsome Man » 09 Jan 2012 08:11

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Nice to see some traditional English V-signs being attempted rather than the one-fingered version.
It's a pity one bloke didn't know which way round it should go though.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Scylla » 09 Jan 2012 08:24

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Nice to see some traditional English V-signs being attempted rather than the one-fingered version.
It's a pity one bloke didn't know which way round it should go though.


It's a big ask for them to stand up and do a V-sign at the same time.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by TheMaraudingDog » 09 Jan 2012 09:46

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Handsome Man Straight red looked fair.
He left the ground completely and went in with both feet.
You can't argue with that.


Both feet are on the ground

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This picture is once he's on the floor so his feet were even higher as he jumped in.

2 footed, off the ground and stood showing.

If Nani hadn't jumped out the way he'd have been clattered. As clear a red card as you'll see.

The real question was why wasn't Kolorov given a yellow for the pen and then another yellow when he took out Valencia for what should have been a pen to make it 4-1?




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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Schards#2 » 09 Jan 2012 10:00

^^ that picture is after the tackle has been made. When Kompany makes contact with the ball, it's with one foot and that foot's on the ground, he wins the ball cleanly and it's not even a foul. It's only two footed in as much that Kompany does possess two feet. Nani is in no danger as the worst that can happen is the ball is pushed against his foot.

If the FA want to outlaw sliding tackles altogether, that's what they should say, it is impossible to do a sliding tackle without your studs being in some way raised or, at some stage, to not have both feet momentarily off of the ground. If people were sent off for this when I was playing, I would never have completed 90 minutes and I suspect you wouldn't have either.

As for the last point, because the ref was crap and had completely lost control.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by TBM » 09 Jan 2012 10:23

Thing is, if Nani had gone down and rolled around for a while then nobody would be complaining about the red......you dont have to make contact with someone to be sent off these days.

People moan that refs aren't consistent, to be consistent they must apply the law as it is stated - as soon as "common sense" is bought in then you get inconsistency as everyone has a different view to the next.


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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by frimmers3 » 09 Jan 2012 10:24

Schards#2 ^^ that picture is after the tackle has been made. When Kompany makes contact with the ball, it's with one foot and that foot's on the ground, he wins the ball cleanly and it's not even a foul. It's only two footed in as much that Kompany does possess two feet. Nani is in no danger as the worst that can happen is the ball is pushed against his foot.

If the FA want to outlaw sliding tackles altogether, that's what they should say, it is impossible to do a sliding tackle without your studs being in some way raised or, at some stage, to not have both feet momentarily off of the ground. If people were sent off for this when I was playing, I would never have completed 90 minutes and I suspect you wouldn't have either.

As for the last point, because the ref was crap and had completely lost control.


nailed.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Schards#2 » 09 Jan 2012 10:34

TBM Thing is, if Nani had gone down and rolled around for a while then nobody would be complaining about the red......you dont have to make contact with someone to be sent off these days.

People moan that refs aren't consistent, to be consistent they must apply the law as it is stated - as soon as "common sense" is bought in then you get inconsistency as everyone has a different view to the next.


So what's the exact wording of the law that you think justifies this decision? As far as i'm aware, I don't think there's any mention of "both feet off the ground", there are just terms like violent/wreckless/dangerous which are open to interpretation and I don't think Kompany's tackle were any of these.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Tredder » 09 Jan 2012 10:49

Plus, had Kompany been within a metre of Nani's legs, he would have thrown himself down as if shot.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Jan 2012 10:58

Schards is always going to say Man City were hard done by - as he is a City fan.

He's like one of those sad numpty Reading fans on facebook yesterday complaining the ref was on Utds side. What I want to know is, why does it bother Reading fans so much that United won? What has it got to do with them?


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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Jan 2012 10:58

If QPR get past MK, they want the game switched to the Bridge.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Svlad Cjelli » 09 Jan 2012 11:00

No Fixed Abode If QPR get past MK, they want the game switched to the Bridge.


NFA in not knowing that the FA Cup rules forbid this so there's no way QPR would even suggest such a thing shocker. :roll:

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Jan 2012 11:06

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No Fixed Abode If QPR get past MK, they want the game switched to the Bridge.


NFA in not knowing that the FA Cup rules forbid this so there's no way QPR would even suggest such a thing shocker. :roll:


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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Royal Lady » 09 Jan 2012 11:20

No Fixed Abode Schards is always going to say Man City were hard done by - as he is a City fan.

He's like one of those sad numpty Reading fans on facebook yesterday complaining the ref was on Utds side. What I want to know is, why does it bother Reading fans so much that United won? What has it got to do with them?



OK, I'll bite. NO he's not. And why shouldn't RFC fans have opinions about other teams. Why does it bother Kes so much what Reading's results are? What has it got to do with him?


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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Schards#2 » 09 Jan 2012 11:25

TBF, I've probably seen more Man City games than he has Chelsea games in the last five years as Reading have played them 5 times.

Having said that, I've probably seen my Chelsea games than he has too - one this season, which is probably enough.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by TheMaraudingDog » 09 Jan 2012 11:26

Bad weekend for Schards with both his teams getting knocked out of the cup by teams going through desperate times.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Jan 2012 11:30

Don't like either utd/city but if thats a red card in the modern day game we might as well give up now, utter joke how this is being made a non contact sport and people are being sent of for what " could have happened" not what actually happened. Farce. Won't be renewing my ST at the ding next season so hopefully this'll be my last season following the sport for a whole host of reasons.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by TheMaraudingDog » 09 Jan 2012 11:35

If you throw a punch does it have to land in order to be sent off?

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by FiNeRaIn » 09 Jan 2012 11:37

TheMaraudingDog If you throw a punch does it have to land in order to be sent off?


There are no circumsances in which throwing a punch is acceptable though. Tackling is allowed. Two problems with the sending off...firstly he gets the ball and doesnt make significant contact, secondly its not a real two footed lunging tackle.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by Svlad Cjelli » 09 Jan 2012 11:38

FiNeRaIn Don't like either utd/city but if thats a red card in the modern day game we might as well give up now, utter joke how this is being made a non contact sport and people are being sent of for what " could have happened" not what actually happened. Farce. Won't be renewing my ST at the ding next season so hopefully this'll be my last season following the sport for a whole host of reasons.


Surely the key question is whether you're in control (of yourself and where you land) when you tackle? Not in control = potentially dangerous.

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Re: FA Cup 3rd round

by RobRoyal » 09 Jan 2012 11:51

No Fixed Abode Schards is always going to say Man City were hard done by - as he is a City fan.

He's like one of those sad numpty Reading fans on facebook yesterday complaining the ref was on Utds side. What I want to know is, why does it bother Reading fans so much that United won? What has it got to do with them?


Just football fans having an opinion about refereeing in the biggest game of the weekend m8, nothing that should upset you so much.

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