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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Norfolk Royal » 23 Feb 2012 11:09

Friday's Legacy "On Monday last week he said something to be me that was very, very important and once he'd said that there was only one place for me to be and that was here. That will be something that remains between me and him."

i think he said "i love you".

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... lves-talks


I think he said that we were signing Robbie Fowler.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Royal With Cheese » 23 Feb 2012 11:14

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Friday's Legacy "On Monday last week he said something to be me that was very, very important and once he'd said that there was only one place for me to be and that was here. That will be something that remains between me and him."

i think he said "i love you".

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... lves-talks


I think he said that we were signing Robbie Fowler.

He was chatting to Nicey Shorey about it shortly before his medical at West Ham.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by TBM » 23 Feb 2012 11:32

He's obviously promised him £10m to spend in the summer

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by mr_number » 23 Feb 2012 11:35

He's promised him Shane and the Sig in the summer. Obvs.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Cobi » 23 Feb 2012 11:48

It could be the opposite. McDermott might have been assured TSI wont be cash happy and through it about, and instead continue our prudent careful approach to new signings. If that's how McDermott wants it of course..

I hope not, but it's just as plausible as thinking we have £10m to spend.


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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Royal Lady » 23 Feb 2012 11:51

Cobi It could be the opposite. McDermott might have been assured TSI wont be cash happy and through it about, and instead continue our prudent careful approach to new signings. If that's how McDermott wants it of course..

I hope not, but it's just as plausible as thinking we have £10m to spend.

Well McD's earlier comments were that he was pleased we wouldn't be cloth cutting any more and selling our best players - so my guess is they've told him how much budget he can have every year for signings/wages etc.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Pepe the Horseman » 23 Feb 2012 11:52

mr_number He's promised him Shane and the Sig in the summer. Obvs.


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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by under the tin » 23 Feb 2012 12:01

I think RL's closer to it.
In several interviews now, Brian has mentioned about continually selling our best players.
To me that suggests he had a major issue with it, and had the status quo been maintained under TSI's tenure, then he may well not have signed a new contract here, whatever Reading offered him.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Dare to Dr£am » 23 Feb 2012 12:12

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Cobi It could be the opposite. McDermott might have been assured TSI wont be cash happy and through it about, and instead continue our prudent careful approach to new signings. If that's how McDermott wants it of course..

I hope not, but it's just as plausible as thinking we have £10m to spend.

Well McD's earlier comments were that he was pleased we wouldn't be cloth cutting any more and selling our best players - so my guess is they've told him how much budget he can have every year for signings/wages etc.


Hmmmm, yes they have said that but that doesn't mean we suddenly have a massive transfer budget as well. It will be bigger, as will the wage budget be, but people thinking we'll spend millions on several players are going to be very disappointed.


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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Royal Lady » 23 Feb 2012 12:40

Yes I agree. I didn't mean to infer that he'd have millions - just a certain budget that he was happy with.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Hoop Blah » 23 Feb 2012 12:45

Great news that we've got him to stay, not only because of the fact he's turning into a very good manager (and nice guy) but also because of the implication that has on the future of the club under Anton and TSI's ownership. It sounds like things are on track and, more importantly, that McDermott (as well as Madejski) is comfortable that they're the right kind of people to work with and run the club.

Before getting too carried away with it all, I think there are a few downsides/warnings to the way this was done.

- It seems pretty obvious to me that McDermott had concerns and, despite what Madejski may say, had some contact with Wolves which means he was interested in the job (partly depending on the way things would pan out here)
- As much as I like McDermott and think he's a pretty straight talking and honest bloke, he's still spinning us some BS along the way here.
- He may 'love the fans' but that didn't stop him or the club keeping us a little informed through all this, which, although some might think was a great PR move, I think was a bit unncessary.
- Interesting that he said this morning that he'd probably have left if it wasn't for the change in regime, so he from that I read that his love for the club, the fans and 'the Reading way' isn't all that great
- The clubs good work isn't going unnoticed as it's clear that Wolves saw McDermott as a good candidate and no doubt they won't be the first. Same goes for some of our players I guess.
- Ultimately this should be a reminder that you can't really believe the majority of the rubbish that gets spouted around the place where football is concerned, from Chairman, Managers, local hacks and pretty much they're all in it for themselves, apart from of course us fans


Although it's a good final outcome, I think it's been a bit unsettling all round. Hopefully they'll now use it as a springboard for a strong finish to the season, not an excuse to falter from this position of strength.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Barry the bird boggler » 23 Feb 2012 12:58

Hoop Blah - It seems pretty obvious to me that McDermott had concerns and, despite what Madejski may say, had some contact with Wolves which means he was interested in the job (partly depending on the way things would pan out here)


According to the interview this AM Reading started negotiations with Brian 3 weeks ago. I have seen nothing to suggest he did speak or go to see Wolves in that time and given his past record would be inclined to believe him when he says there was no contact

Hoop Blah - He may 'love the fans' but that didn't stop him or the club keeping us a little informed through all this, which, although some might think was a great PR move, I think was a bit unncessary.


They are not going to give a running commentary of the way negotiations are progressing, they will quietly get on with it behind the scenes which they should. Equally they can't rubbish the idiot rumours as if talks suddenly hit a snag it would leave them or the manager looking fools

Hoop Blah - Interesting that he said this morning that he'd probably have left if it wasn't for the change in regime, so he from that I read that his love for the club, the fans and 'the Reading way' isn't all that great


Don't see that as a surprise. Given the position we were in without TSI it would be sould destroying for a manager with great ambition to be stuck having to rebuild and hope every season and so if TSI weren't about I would have expected him to have gone.

Hoop Blah - Ultimately this should be a reminder that you can't really believe the majority of the rubbish that gets spouted around the place where football is concerned, from Chairman, Managers, local hacks and pretty much they're all in it for themselves, apart from of course us fans


Of course they are, it should aways be family first, job second.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by The Rouge » 23 Feb 2012 13:04

Barry The Bird Boggler > Hoop Blah


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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Hoop Blah » 23 Feb 2012 13:19

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Hoop Blah - It seems pretty obvious to me that McDermott had concerns and, despite what Madejski may say, had some contact with Wolves which means he was interested in the job (partly depending on the way things would pan out here)


According to the interview this AM Reading started negotiations with Brian 3 weeks ago. I have seen nothing to suggest he did speak or go to see Wolves in that time and given his past record would be inclined to believe him when he says there was no contact


McDermott said he'd not spoken to them. If you're niave enough to think they'd not sounded out 'his people' before asking the club if they'd be able to speak to him then fair enough. As TBM said, he paused quite some time at the press conference before answering the question about him talking to Wolves and, if there was no potential for him going there why did the contract talks that had been ongoing for 3-4 weeks suddenly come to head with 'summit talk's between McDermott and Anton on Sunday and Monday.

Pure coincidence?

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Hoop Blah - He may 'love the fans' but that didn't stop him or the club keeping us a little informed through all this, which, although some might think was a great PR move, I think was a bit unncessary.


They are not going to give a running commentary of the way negotiations are progressing, they will quietly get on with it behind the scenes which they should. Equally they can't rubbish the idiot rumours as if talks suddenly hit a snag it would leave them or the manager looking fools


I'm not looking for a running commentry but, with the intense media speculation around what's going on, I think a bit more communication wouldn't go amiss. McDermott said that after his conversations on Sunday and then Monday (and those magic words Anton whispered in his ear) he'd made up his mind that he wasn't going anywhere.

If that was truely the case why not put some release out there to prevent the worry and speculation the whole affair has caused.

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Hoop Blah - Interesting that he said this morning that he'd probably have left if it wasn't for the change in regime, so he from that I read that his love for the club, the fans and 'the Reading way' isn't all that great


Don't see that as a surprise. Given the position we were in without TSI it would be sould destroying for a manager with great ambition to be stuck having to rebuild and hope every season and so if TSI weren't about I would have expected him to have gone.


Interesting to me because plenty on here would (and did) suggest that McDermott was here for the love of the club and was unsettled by the TSI takeover and feared his future would be in doubt because of the change. The reality is that it's probably the other way round.

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Hoop Blah - Ultimately this should be a reminder that you can't really believe the majority of the rubbish that gets spouted around the place where football is concerned, from Chairman, Managers, local hacks and pretty much they're all in it for themselves, apart from of course us fans


Of course they are, it should aways be family first, job second.


Of course. I didn't say it was wrong, but plenty build up the bond between the club and it's staff as more than that. How many people were saying they couldn't understand why he'd leave his 1 year rolling contract with RFC for the Wolves job? 90% of posters on here thought he'd be mad to leave. The reality is that a 3 year bumper contract with Wolves was worth more than what he had here.

My point in general was that the spin and soundbites we hear from those in the industry really should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. They're paying lip service to their paymasters, the fans, and nothing more 99% of the time.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Vision » 23 Feb 2012 13:58

As far as the releasing more info to the fans is concerned, I think you have to do one thing or the other.

Either you keep everyone informed of all the developments or you STFU until everything is concluded as we've done. Wolves started with the latter but with all the added speculation and pressure tried to appease supporters by making the odd statement here and there on their progress which turned the whole process into a circus. It's left them looking like proper amateurs

Think we got this one spot on to be honest.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by facaldaqui » 23 Feb 2012 14:02

Hoop Blah
My point in general was that the spin and soundbites we hear from those in the industry really should be taken with a massive pinch of salt. They're paying lip service to their paymasters, the fans, and nothing more 99% of the time.


It's true the customers come first and that it pays to care about the customers, but that doesn't mean caring for the customer is lip service. I genuinely care about my customers--I do my best for them and in return they support me, which I appreciate: it's a reciprocal relationship. It is perfectly possible to genuinely care about the people you depend on for your living, even though that doesn't preclude you from one day leaving them to earn more somewhere else.

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by The Rouge » 23 Feb 2012 14:11

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Hoop Blah - He may 'love the fans' but that didn't stop him or the club keeping us a little informed through all this, which, although some might think was a great PR move, I think was a bit unncessary.


They are not going to give a running commentary of the way negotiations are progressing, they will quietly get on with it behind the scenes which they should. Equally they can't rubbish the idiot rumours as if talks suddenly hit a snag it would leave them or the manager looking fools


I'm not looking for a running commentry but, with the intense media speculation around what's going on, I think a bit more communication wouldn't go amiss.


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Reading FC @ReadingFC
We cannot currently get through to McDermott's mobile phone. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Sir John Madejski not at the stadium so cannot ask him what he knows at the moment. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Just spoke to Sir John Madejski's daughter - she thinks he is at a hotel in London, possibly to speak to Brian McDermott . #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Brian's wife confirms his mobile phone battery was low when he left the house this morning. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
BREAKING: We know that Anton, Sir John Madeski and Brian McDermott are talking about a new contract. We have no idea if Brian will sign. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Sir John Madeski confirms that Brian McDermott is asking for more money than we thought he would. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Chris Samuelson is currently sitting in boardroom looking at an Excel Spreadsheet. Having severe issues with a particular formula and has posted an 'Excel Help' thread on AE under his pseudonym 'cmonurz'. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Brian McDermott just called and said he had some positive news but has to pop to Wickes first to pick up a shelf bracket. #readingfc

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Barnabas » 23 Feb 2012 14:16

Friday's Legacy "On Monday last week he said something to be me that was very, very important and once he'd said that there was only one place for me to be and that was here. That will be something that remains between me and him."

i think he said "i love you".

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... lves-talks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxrEwkdOytA

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by melonhead » 23 Feb 2012 14:24

Hoop Blah - It seems pretty obvious to me that McDermott had concerns and, despite what Madejski may say, had some contact with Wolves which means he was interested in the job (partly depending on the way things would pan out here)
- As much as I like McDermott and think he's a pretty straight talking and honest bloke, he's still spinning us some BS along the way here.
- He may 'love the fans' but that didn't stop him or the club keeping us a little informed through all this, which, although some might think was a great PR move, I think was a bit unncessary.


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-obvious!
- :roll:
-cos telling everyone that youll stay half way through contract negotiations is well sensible

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Re: Mcdermott Signs New Contract

by Hoop Blah » 23 Feb 2012 14:47

The Rouge Like?:

Reading FC @ReadingFC
We cannot currently get through to McDermott's mobile phone. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Sir John Madejski not at the stadium so cannot ask him what he knows at the moment. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Just spoke to Sir John Madejski's daughter - she thinks he is at a hotel in London, possibly to speak to Brian McDermott . #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Brian's wife confirms his mobile phone battery was low when he left the house this morning. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
BREAKING: We know that Anton, Sir John Madeski and Brian McDermott are talking about a new contract. We have no idea if Brian will sign. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Sir John Madeski confirms that Brian McDermott is asking for more money than we thought he would. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Chris Samuelson is currently sitting in boardroom looking at an Excel Spreadsheet. Having severe issues with a particular formula and has posted an 'Excel Help' thread on AE under his pseudonym 'cmonurz'. #readingfc

Reading FC @ReadingFC
Brian McDermott just called and said he had some positive news but has to pop to Wickes first to pick up a shelf bracket. #readingfc


No, but well done on a hialrious post.

I'm thinking more along the lines of, on Tuesday morning, or lunchtime, or whenever before things really got going, the club stating that there had or hadn't been an approach by Wolves for McDermot and we had or hadn't refused them permission to speak to him. It's the kind of thing clubs do all the time, in fact we've done much the same with Kebe, Long and others in the last year or so.

Keep it short and factual but give the fans some reassurance that things were going on or not.

If, as McDermott tells us, he was certain to stay after Monday's tete a tete then kill off the speculation and release a statement that negotiations with the club are ongoing, and have been for sometime. Obviously that might weaken his hand slightly, or perhaps it was more about the money and he was scared he'd end up doing a Pardew/McGee and going back on his word.

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