Refs at old trafford

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Refs at old trafford

by Chaney » 08 Apr 2012 12:49

If proof is needed after the Fulham non penalty, Lee Mason and his assistant have just re-enforced the belief that united do get the rub of the green, offside not given, slight touch penalty given and to top it off a red card.......absolute fvcking joke.

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by Schards#2 » 08 Apr 2012 13:01

Feel sorry for the fans tbh, the game is now a complete non event and the result a forgeone conclusion. Not helped by QPR fielding a weakened team in the first place.

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by bcubed » 08 Apr 2012 13:03

Chaney If proof is needed after the Fulham non penalty, Lee Mason and his assistant have just re-enforced the belief that united do get the rub of the green, offside not given, slight touch penalty given and to top it off a red card.......absolute fvcking joke.


was just going to post the same - I think Mr Drysdale would have been proud :lol:

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by Chaney » 08 Apr 2012 13:27

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Chaney If proof is needed after the Fulham non penalty, Lee Mason and his assistant have just re-enforced the belief that united do get the rub of the green, offside not given, slight touch penalty given and to top it off a red card.......absolute fvcking joke.


was just going to post the same - I think Mr Drysdale would have been proud :lol:


That cheating bastrad young must take some of the blame, 12 stone and he flies through the air at the mearest touch, Ive always hated everything that team stands for from its glory hunting fans based in the home counties to their holier than thou can do no wrong attitude.

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by Royal Rother » 08 Apr 2012 13:40

How can the lino not flag for offside against Young? I just don't get it.

I run the line in my son's football and, whilst I appreciate it is a different pace altogether, those sorts of decisions are really not difficult to get right. He was exactly in line with Young, the pass was only travelling a short distance to him and he was a full yard offside.

Absolutely pathetic from the linos this weekend.


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by postwhisperer » 08 Apr 2012 13:41

dont really see ref cock ups this bad in MLS and we got terrible refs but they are held more accountable for their actions. i think the problem is the english/celtic/rangers belief that "it evens itself over the course of a season" is something people have taken to be truth because its spewed by the ones that always benefit from these decisions and not the little clubs. also accountability. refs are human, humans make mistakes, its part of being human, fifa and all the other tards need to realize this and give refs better technology to make smarter "game changing" decisions. a red card and pen that could decide the fate of a club 80million quid relegation or man uniteds champions.. i think it wouldnt hurt to take 30 seconds to confirm via 4th official about the decision. the last world cup was already ruined by cheating and yet the mugs are slow to do anything about it. we need to change attitudes. when a player dives a ref needs to stop deciding if it was convincing enough to be worthy of calling a foul or not or call the player out for diving.i dont really watch the BPL because the refs, the cheating and some of the cvnts that playt in the league just ruin the experience for me .

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by parky » 08 Apr 2012 13:46

Royal Rother How can the lino not flag for offside against Young? I just don't get it.

I run the line in my son's football and, whilst I appreciate it is a different pace altogether, those sorts of decisions are really not difficult to get right. He was exactly in line with Young, the pass was only travelling a short distance to him and he was a full yard offside.

Absolutely pathetic from the linos this weekend.


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Re: Refs at old trafford

by Royal Rother » 08 Apr 2012 13:47

No sorry, that doesn't mean anything. You're going to have to do a bit better than that.

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by Franchise FC » 08 Apr 2012 13:48

The diving issue could be resolved quite quickly (in relative terms).

Have a panel that review 'incidents' and if it's clear that it's a dive then impose an immediate 3 match ban. It's not the same as a yellow card, because in the game itself it was clearly good enough to con the referee.

For a second offence double the punishment. Two dives, 9 matches out - it would stop it very, very quickly.

And no appeal if the panel decide it's a dive.

Oh, and Ashley Young would only play about a dozen games a season.


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by cmonurz » 08 Apr 2012 13:51

^Agreed.

I'd also like to see an end of the policy that says that if a referee has 'dealt with' an incident, the FA cannot review it. Taking Pugh's tackle on Karacan - retrospectively Pugh should be given a three match ban for that, it is a ridiculous situation that that ban could be levied, but that if Drysdale had booked him, it could not.

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by cmonurz » 08 Apr 2012 13:52

Royal Rother No sorry, that doesn't mean anything. You're going to have to do a bit better than that.


I don't know what's going on at the moment. I got one from SydenhamRoyal yesterday for writing 'balls'.

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by sandman » 08 Apr 2012 14:12

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by parky » 08 Apr 2012 14:21

Football will never change, as a higher level referee I can tell you that people don't want football to change, everyone enjoys the controversy and debate that surrounds the game.


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Re: Refs at old trafford

by Franchise FC » 08 Apr 2012 14:24

parky Football will never change, as a higher level referee I can tell you that people don't want football to change, everyone enjoys the controversy and debate that surrounds the game.


Not 'everyone' actually.

And the stuff that's going on at the moment isn't controversial or debatable - it's just plain wrong.

Besides, it has already changed. In the 70's the sort of tackles that went on would've been reds regularly in todays game. Offside was offside (except Tony Brown).

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by parky » 08 Apr 2012 14:29

cmonurz ^Agreed.

I'd also like to see an end of the policy that says that if a referee has 'dealt with' an incident, the FA cannot review it. Taking Pugh's tackle on Karacan - retrospectively Pugh should be given a three match ban for that, it is a ridiculous situation that that ban could be levied, but that if Drysdale had booked him, it could not.


Why then? Would a referee worry about getting the decisions right in the first place?

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by Mr Angry » 08 Apr 2012 17:13

The other issue that is getting totally out of hand is the amount of physical contact that goes on in the box at the time a set piece is delivered; holding always happened, but in recent seasons it has become farcical, with the sort of contact that anywhere else on the pitch gets a free-kick..

The solution? Simples.

Penalty if its done by the defender, free kick if done by the forward.

After a few weeks where 3 or 4 penalties get awarded per game, teams will soon instruct their defenders to learn to defend without recourse to watching wrestling shows for tips.

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by M-U-R-T-Y » 08 Apr 2012 17:16

parky Football will never change, as a higher level referee I can tell you that people don't want football to change, everyone enjoys the controversy and debate that surrounds the game.


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Re: Refs at old trafford

by AthleticoSpizz » 08 Apr 2012 17:19

Mr Angry The other issue that is getting totally out of hand is the amount of physical contact that goes on in the box at the time a set piece is delivered; holding always happened, but in recent seasons it has become farcical, with the sort of contact that anywhere else on the pitch gets a free-kick..

The solution? Simples.

Penalty if its done by the defender, free kick if done by the forward.

After a few weeks where 3 or 4 penalties get awarded per game, teams will soon instruct their defenders to learn to defend without recourse to watching wrestling shows for tips.
101% agree with your observations and solutions. Think I posted something similar 2 or 3 years ago, less than comforting to know, nothing has changed.

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by Royal Rother » 08 Apr 2012 17:32

parky Football will never change, as a higher level referee I can tell you that people don't want football to change, everyone enjoys the controversy and debate that surrounds the game.


I'm sorry but that is complete nonsense.

1. It will change as technology is employed during the next decade or 2.
2. People want it to change because they are SICK of watching a game and feeling that the outcome might have been different if the officials had been consistent and competent.
3. People might well enjoy the debate about controversial incidents, but they would rather NOT be debating the incompetence of the officials.

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Re: Refs at old trafford

by blindedbythelights » 08 Apr 2012 18:10

word round the e-campfire is joe hart was caught on camera calling mario as a black cahunt after he got sent off

the lawlz if its true :!: :idea: :!:

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