Ideal Some people are incredibly obsessed with possession football.
Reviewing Madrid v Barca, statistics are barca 72% possession, Real 28%. Yet Real won the match.
Can we all now agree that having the ball more and passing it about for ten thousand times in neat little triangles is less important than scoring the most goals?
TheMaraudingDog Of course scoring goals is more important but you can't score if you don't have the ball.
I bet that stats would suggest that normally the team with the most possession wins so therefore id say possession it still pretty important.
gazzer, loyal royal depends where the possession is. A lot of teams will let barca have the ball in their own half, where they know they can't score from. It's all well and good saying Xavi made 130 odd passes in the game against Chelsea but 90% of them were probably backwards or in his own half
PieEater The tippy tappy football that Barca play bores me to death. That's why the prem is so popular elsewhere as it is generally exciting
PieEater The tippy tappy football that Barca play bores me to death. That's why the prem is so popular elsewhere as it is generally exciting
Victor MeldrewPieEater The tippy tappy football that Barca play bores me to death. That's why the prem is so popular elsewhere as it is generally exciting
Yeah absolutely those so watchable Bolton,Blackburn,Wolves,Stoke,Everton etc and especially those exciting 0-0s between Spurs and Chelsea and Chelsea at Arsenal yesterday.
For me La Liga>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>most Premier games.
Ideal Can we all now agree that having the ball more and passing it about for ten thousand times in neat little triangles is less important than scoring the most goals?
cmonurz Hilarious that the minute they suffer a slight dip in form, Barca's style suddenly comes under the microscope. You can't score goals without the ball. First home defeat in 55 games.
sandman AROFLogant and DeLOLuded EngLOLishmen.
cmonurz 3 posts out of 14 that made a direct relationship between the hypothesis that you don't need the ball to win a football match and Barca's recent results. Given no other team has come under the microscope on this thread, I thought it a relevant point to make. Rare occasion where I am in full agreement with TMD.
Ideal No, your post is what is "LOLable", it makes me go zomg, rofl, 111!!!oneoneone.
You are trying to reduce the argument of "possession football" vs "effective football" to a one-game discussion, which clearly it is not.
Another example of stupidity is when people try to reduce "effective football" to hoofball.
No, Reading FC play "effective football", while West Ham play HOOFBALL.
The difference is, we, RFC, try to play the ball in the most direct and effective manner while maintaining tactical control, in order to get up and score.
West Ham on the other hand do not appear to have a bonafide tactical pland, and resort to hoofing it up towards the big man, and do not have any plan B, this is where the difference is.
If you play effective football, you make your chances count, because you create dangerous chances -chances that appear when the opponent is disorganized at the back.
If you pass it around between your defenders for 33 moves, before trying to have a go at goal, generally what happens most of the time is you get a long range shot from in the middle of the pitch straight in front of the keeper, which the keeper easily gathers. This is not a dangerous chance.
Compare that to our recent one where Kebe storms down the right, picks out Roberts and he scores from 5 yards out, clearly this is the more dangerous and penetrative opportunity which is more likely to catch them off guard, hence more likely to create a goal.
I honestly do not buy into the argument that somehow it is more entertaining and of more value to watch some team pass it about in their own half for 33 moves, than it is to watch us storm up the pitch and score in three quick moves, I just don't buy that.
Can someone from the "piss-it-about-possession-brigade" please explain to me why it is somehow more entertaining to watch a team pass it for 33 moves and then not score, than it is to watch us pass it three times AND SCORE THE WINNER????
I would also like to point out that effective football is proven to be a success recipe over and over again.
Greece won the championship playing effective football, and defeated several teams that played braindead possession football in the course of winning it.
Norway continually punch above their weight in international football, despite having a team consisting largely of players who most would agree are of less than average ability, Norway still manage to beat the bigger teams, and have recently defeated both Germany and Spain.
Today West Brom defeated LOLiverpooLOL. Despite LOLiverpooLOL having taken some 28 shots, and West Brom managing only 9, a third of what LOLiverpooLOL had.
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