RUMOUR - Bertrand, Clyne and Zaha

[urz13]

Surely the solution is to buy Zaha and loan Obita to Palace for a season as part of the deal - as he is almost a like for like replacement.

Are you seriously suggestign Obita has anything in common with zaha other than the fact he's a winger? One is a proven championship player attracting interest from prem clubs, one couldn't get in an injury hit reading team playing strikers on the wing to compensate

The comparison stops at the position they play, stop being bias..its a massive downgrade for palace.

Typical of you writing off a VERY promising young player who has already scored goals on loan and who you have probably never seen play. I have watched him in the flesh a few times now and he is a PL player in the making. He could do very well in the Championship next season. He is only 18 so was never going to be risked in our first team this season.

Plus he wa injured for a while

[FiNeRaIn]

Surely the solution is to buy Zaha and loan Obita to Palace for a season as part of the deal - as he is almost a like for like replacement.

Are you seriously suggestign Obita has anything in common with zaha other than the fact he's a winger? One is a proven championship player attracting interest from prem clubs, one couldn't get in an injury hit reading team playing strikers on the wing to compensate

The comparison stops at the position they play, stop being bias..its a massive downgrade for palace.

Typical of you writing off a VERY promising young player who has already scored goals on loan and who you have probably never seen play. I have watched him in the flesh a few times now and he is a PL player in the making. He could do very well in the Championship next season. He is only 18 so was never going to be risked in our first team this season.

I didn't say he wasn't promising, you just have your bias goggles on. No one other than Reading fans think that Jordan Obita is anywhere near the current stature of wilfred zaha, if he was good enough he'd play for us...simple. Claiming he wasn't " going to be risked" is just nonsense really and another way of saying a player isn't CURRENTLY upto it. I have hopes for Obita but at this point zaha is clearly ahead.

[sheshnu]

Is that why people are suggesting they'd be pleased if Reading signed Zaha and sent Obita out on loan to get some more experience? Everybody here seems to be in agreement.

[sandman]

I didn't say he wasn't promising, you just have your bias goggles on. No one other than Reading fans think that Jordan Obita is anywhere near the current stature of wilfred zaha, if he was good enough he'd play for us...simple. Claiming he wasn't " going to be risked" is just nonsense really and another way of saying a player isn't CURRENTLY upto it. I have hopes for Obita but at this point zaha is clearly ahead.

Obita is a year younger, has two of the best wingers in the division in front of him and HRK who seems to be Brian's son. As Palarse continually get screwed over in the transfer market (see Bostock) they have no choice but to promote their young players so Zaha has got more league experience at a higher level out of necessity. For the most part Harte made Zaha look fairly ordinary on Saturday.

[FiNeRaIn]

Harte did a good job on him, agreed. He was more dangerous through the centre and caused us problems there instead. Obita a year younger doesn't make a difference Zaha was playing regularly at his age and the circumstances around that don't count for anything. Mcanuff/HRK and Kebe have all had injuries and been off form at times this season, Obita wasn't played. He may come good, im not knocking him but to suggest anything other than Zaha being clearly ahead of him at this current time is just silly...I hope you aren't inferring that?

[JS28ZoD]

Both are good young promising players but undoubtably Zaha is further along his development in terms of both games and experience and as such serious interest from Prem clubs.

By all accounts Obita is extremely highly rated and was brought back to reading so he could be in and around the group to experience the run in which will be invaluable to him in the future. If he continues to work hard he really could be something special.

[Simon's Church]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

[LeFondreforEngland]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

+1

[Super Kevin Bremner!]

But this is my point. Had Obita come through the ranks at Palace, I think they'd have played him several times in the Championship already, so I'm sure they'd see it as the same gamble we would.

[Simon's Church]

Well yeah Palace are very happy to give chance to their own players who they can keep/sell once they get good.

[melonhead]

I can't see Bertrand when he's starting to push Cole for a start.

Clyne a massive yes please at right back.

Zaha a massive massive yes please. Someone to run and trick their way into the box is just what we need.

berti is still only ever going to play when cole is injured/rested though
maybe a season long loan is viable
cos playing a whole season>>>>>>>playing in 10 games

[loyalroyal4life]

I can't see Bertrand when he's starting to push Cole for a start.

Clyne a massive yes please at right back.

Zaha a massive massive yes please. Someone to run and trick their way into the box is just what we need.

berti is still only ever going to play when cole is injured/rested though
maybe a season long loan is viable
cos playing a whole season>>>>>>>playing in 10 games

Berty on loan will only happen IF chelski get another LB in even if it will only be to cover Cole

[sandman]

Harte did a good job on him, agreed. He was more dangerous through the centre and caused us problems there instead. Obita a year younger doesn't make a difference Zaha was playing regularly at his age and the circumstances around that don't count for anything. Mcanuff/HRK and Kebe have all had injuries and been off form at times this season, Obita wasn't played. He may come good, im not knocking him but to suggest anything other than Zaha being clearly ahead of him at this current time is just silly...I hope you aren't inferring that?

Obita had been injured for parts of the season, a year is a very long time in football and when he was fit I'm sure you'd have seen him more if there had still been 7 subs.

Of course circumstances make a difference that's why they are circumstances and there are different ones at different clubs. We are generally quite cautious with throwing youngsters in whereas Palace aren't because they need to do it. As I've said we have, with all due respect to Palace, better senior players that make it harder for a player to get in the team. Kebe and McAnuff have had dips this season but Brian keeps playing Jobi because he's captain and he plays Kebe because he thinks that Jimmy is capable of doing something magic even when not playing well. Personally I think we'd be better to concentrate on other targets than signing another young winger who could struggle to get in the team past Kebe and McAnuff.

Is Zaha ahead of him in development currently? Yes because he has played more senior football. Are things as black and white as you so often make such things out to be? No.

[TBM]

if there had still been 7 subs.

This is it

The Football League really fcuked up with that one......ok maybe the lower leagues can have 5 as their squads aren't as full but teams in the Championship should really have had 7 subs

[@sonkimarsson]

if there had still been 7 subs.

This is it

The Football League really fcuked up with that one......ok maybe the lower leagues can have 5 as their squads aren't as full but teams in the Championship should really have had 7 subs

Unless you're portsmouth obviously.

[Seal]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

Clearly not a exact replacement. One is going for 7m the other is a a loanee?

The point is surely that Obita is offered as a "Sweetener" to lesson to blow of losing a stand out player.

Obviously Obita is not going to be nearly as good. Hence why we would pay 7m for one and be happy to loan out the other...

Fairly certain none of these will happen in any case, but reassuring nevertheless: these are exactly the sort of players we should be going after. NOT overpaid, past their sell by date Prem players like Bridge.

[Mr Angry]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

Clearly not a exact replacement. One is going for 7m the other is a a loanee?

The point is surely that Obita is offered as a "Sweetener" to lesson to blow of losing a stand out player.

Obviously Obita is not going to be nearly as good. Hence why we would pay 7m for one and be happy to loan out the other...

Fairly certain none of these will happen in any case, but reassuring nevertheless: these are exactly the sort of players we should be going after. NOT overpaid, past their sell by date Prem players like Bridge.

Replace the name Bridge with the name Harte, and you have pretty well word for word, Ideal's take on the possibility of Harte joining us a couple of Years ago....

The reality is that, in the Prem, we will need experience in the team and the squad; Bridge would be an excellent addition to the squad, at the right price of course.

[BR2]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

Clearly not a exact replacement. One is going for 7m the other is a a loanee?

The point is surely that Obita is offered as a "Sweetener" to lesson to blow of losing a stand out player.

Obviously Obita is not going to be nearly as good. Hence why we would pay 7m for one and be happy to loan out the other...

Fairly certain none of these will happen in any case, but reassuring nevertheless: these are exactly the sort of players we should be going after. NOT overpaid, past their sell by date Prem players like Bridge.

Replace the name Bridge with the name Harte, and you have pretty well word for word, Ideal's take on the possibility of Harte joining us a couple of Years ago....

The reality is that, in the Prem, we will need experience in the team and the squad; Bridge would be an excellent addition to the squad, at the right price of course.

I don't agree.
Bridge has gone downhill fast and is nowhere near the player that went from Saints to Chelsea.
At least Harte had that magical left foot in his locker (like the football speak? ) but is slow and not a great defender.
Bridge has no magic left foot and is slow and not a good defender and would cost money.
Also Harte is obviously a strong character whereas Bridge is a weak character-no thanks.
If we were going for experience I would sooner have Shorey or Richardson (Kieran,not Steve).

[Simon's Church]

I agree with finerain's original point. I can't see Palace being happy selling just about their best player and replacing him with a loanee who's total league experience is around 10 games in League 2.

Clearly not a exact replacement. One is going for 7m the other is a a loanee?

The point is surely that Obita is offered as a "Sweetener" to lesson to blow of losing a stand out player.

Obviously Obita is not going to be nearly as good. Hence why we would pay 7m for one and be happy to loan out the other...

Fairly certain none of these will happen in any case, but reassuring nevertheless: these are exactly the sort of players we should be going after. NOT overpaid, past their sell by date Prem players like Bridge.

Getting them to develop our players isn't THAT much of a sweetener though, if we were to do a similar deal I could see someone like Antonio go to Palace.

[pea]

Getting them to develop our players isn't THAT much of a sweetener though, if we were to do a similar deal I could see someone like Antonio go to Palace.

Already heard whispers...