McLean refusing to wear the shirt (poppy)

[Silver Fox]

I don't agree with Mclean's decision not to wear a poppy on his shirt but at the same time I respect his feelings - but at the same time he should not of been using the Remberence Weekend to view his political opinions .

When else is he not going to wear a poppy?

[Maguire]

Maguire - you might like to read this Wikipedia entry - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neut ... rld_War_II

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[southbank1871]

Fukking micks.

[Victor Meldrew]

You are footballers-get on with doing what you are paid to do.

I didn't realise they were being paid to promote the british Legion appeal?

I don't know if you have an employer (as fortunately I have no idea who you are nor any desire to enquire further) but if you do/did and your employer said on Remembrance Day that there would be 2 minutes silence in the workplace out of respect for the war dead at 11 o'clock would you think an employee should continue to hold a conversation during that 2 minute period or take a phone call?

[peterroyal76]

Poppy is a British thing. He is Irish. Irish and the British army are not the best of friends historically.

Bit of a non story really. I'm sure he respects those who lost their lives in causes he agrees with.

The thing is, he isn't irish. He's from Londonderry which the last time I looked was in Northern Ireland. What a cnut!!

[PBR]

the sooner northern ireland returns home the better. imagine how stupid it would be if everyone who lost elections wanted to secede because they disagreed with popular opinion, get over yourselves.

[peterroyal76]

Returns home? Its a seperate country!! get over yerself!

[Terminal Boardom]

Poppy is a British thing. He is Irish. Irish and the British army are not the best of friends historically.

Not quite right. It was an American idea just before the end of the WW1. We adopted it in 1921 or something. Hav a look at the link I posted foot of page 2.

[Stuka]

the sooner northern ireland returns home the better. imagine how stupid it would be if everyone who lost elections wanted to secede because they disagreed with popular opinion, get over yourselves.

Oh look at you with your bowl of Lucky Charms. You know nothing about Northern Ireland and probably swallowed some plastic paddy bile from another yank whose great granny once ate a raw potato in County Fiddle-dee-dee

[Jackson Corner]

Maguire - you might like to read this Wikipedia entry - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neut ... rld_War_II

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One thing the micks overlook is as well as Jews Hitlers other favs for the gas chambers were gypsies. A German win would have wiped out about 90% of the Irish population.

[Stuboo]

McClean. #whatatwat

[M Brook]

Maguire - you might like to read this Wikipedia entry - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neut ... rld_War_II

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A predictable response but at least you read it!

[M Brook]

Poppy is a British thing. He is Irish. Irish and the British army are not the best of friends historically.

Bit of a non story really. I'm sure he respects those who lost their lives in causes he agrees with.

The thing is, he isn't irish. He's from Londonderry which the last time I looked was in Northern Ireland. What a cnut!!

Think you'll find that folk from Ulster consider themselves Irish. Some consider themselves Brits as well but not all.

[Royal With Cheese]

The Irish fought in....WW2

Yeah, for the Germans.

Yes a small number of Repulican tools sided with the Nazi's. However, as far as I am aware plenty of Irish signed up to fight against them.

Over 50,000 went directly against their Governments wishes and signed for the allies. When they returned home they were effectively barred from holding any government sanctioned post for 10 years (that includes anything from Civil servants to teachers and road diggers) and were denied any sort of welfare for their families.

It was nothing short of a national outrage which is only now being recognised by the Irish Governmnet as there is a movement for the Government to apologise for this.

It was good to see Frank Feighan wear the poppy in the Dial after it being banned for 16 years. Some have suggested changing the colour to white for Ireland but I always through that was the colour of cowardice.

Anyway - James McClean is a Derryman who turned his back on Northern Ireland to play for the Republic. It doesn't surprise me.

[Royal With Cheese]

Poppy is a British thing. He is Irish. Irish and the British army are not the best of friends historically.

Bit of a non story really. I'm sure he respects those who lost their lives in causes he agrees with.

The thing is, he isn't irish. He's from Londonderry which the last time I looked was in Northern Ireland. What a cnut!!

Think you'll find that folk from Ulster consider themselves Irish. Some consider themselves Brits as well but not all.

The majority consider themselves British. It underpins the good Friday agreement and while this majority is in place it will remain part of the United Kingdom.

[Silver Fox]

You are footballers-get on with doing what you are paid to do.

I didn't realise they were being paid to promote the british Legion appeal?

I don't know if you have an employer (as fortunately I have no idea who you are nor any desire to enquire further) but if you do/did and your employer said on Remembrance Day that there would be 2 minutes silence in the workplace out of respect for the war dead at 11 o'clock would you think an employee should continue to hold a conversation during that 2 minute period or take a phone call?

No, but that's just manners and is also not a fair comparison to the situation you're discussing

Now if my employer wanted me to wear a symbol of a cause I disagreed with then I'd happily refuse and expect that to be the end of it

[M Brook]

The thing is, he isn't irish. He's from Londonderry which the last time I looked was in Northern Ireland. What a cnut!!

Think you'll find that folk from Ulster consider themselves Irish. Some consider themselves Brits as well but not all.

The majority consider themselves British. It underpins the good Friday agreement and while this majority is in place it will remain part of the United Kingdom.

Indeed - I am sure the majority do. But that wasn't the point I was making. I have many friends from Northern Ireland who are stauchly pro-British and consider themselves as British as I am. But they also consider themselves Irish (especially during the 6 Nations!).

[M Brook]

Over 50,000 went directly against their Governments wishes and signed for the allies. When they returned home they were effectively barred from holding any government sanctioned post for 10 years (that includes anything from Civil servants to teachers and road diggers) and were denied any sort of welfare for their families.

It was nothing short of a national outrage which is only now being recognised by the Irish Governmnet as there is a movement for the Government to apologise for this.

All this is detailed in the short but excellent book I recommended a few comments above - 'Spitting on a Soldier's Grave' - well worth a read if you're looking for the truth.

[creative_username_1]

Is there anything lower on the social scale than being from Northern Ireland and working class?

[Stuka]

Is there anything lower on the social scale than being from Northern Ireland and working class?

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