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by Ian Royal » 24 Nov 2012 17:34

Colin Cheeselog We seem incapable of stopping teams from shooting. Players break through our midfield and defence almost at will, and when you give the ball away as much we do that means we’re relying on players missing most of their chances and/or our keeper having a blinder. I think overall we’ve been very fortunate not to have conceded more this season.

In recent games our opposition have had:

Wigan 19 shots
Everton 21 shots
QPR 23 shots
Swansea 25 shots
Liverpool 23 shots

We’re never going to win games where we give the opposition that many chances.

That's a pretty eye opening series of numbers. Quite telling. Teams can play through us too often and we give them space too often as well.

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by handbags_harris » 24 Nov 2012 17:36

Ok, rational me thoughts:-

Fcuking appalling defensively, we've not been great this season at the back but today, up against an unusual formation, we were ruthlessly exposed. Gunter persistently plays far too narrow which afforded Beausejour the time and space to get cross after cross in - the warning was there after two minutes - and Gorkks gets done by a bit of movement every single time. The amount of free headers we have conceded this season as a result of this, well it tells its own story. Federici can take his own fair share of the blame for their equaliser as he failed to hold onto a shot for the second or third time today, a shot that he should be taking fairly comfortably, and nearly repeated the trick a minute later, but originally it was Morrison who gave the ball away unforgiveably cheaply and then found himself out of position. Wigan should have gone ahead a minute before their second, only a poor offside call prevented them from doing so, Beausejour again the provider but then the criminal second - free cross from deep with Gunter and McAnuff nowhere to be seen (could have been HRK tbf, they did swap at one point), Gorkks done once again by a bit of movement, free header. Then the turd of a third, Beausejour getting in down the left again after we once again gave the ball away cheaply in midfield, they had numbers, and Gomes gets his hat-trick. The pathetic thing with that is that, all in all, Gomes had an awful game :lol:

Positives however - the attack once again looked good. We were always going to get a lot of joy up against Wigan's three man back line and the wingers didn't disappoint. ALF maybe should have scored first half, Al-Habsi pulled off a superb save from him at 1-1, and on top of all that we've been done again by poor refereeing decisions at critical times in the game. Two penalties denied, both stonewall in my view, both involving Tabb - first a handball from his volley, the guy's arm outstretched, and then second half Figueroa I think lunged, missed the ball, got Tabb. Roberts was immense all day again, he really has to start every game, Pogrebnyak's contribution in his cameo was to give the ball away twice. Unfortunately all this doesn't disguise the fact that we could have, and probably should have, conceded six.

Still, Wigan 3-2 Reading, Blackpool 2-2 Watford, Ipswich 1-1 Peterborough, Wolves 1-2 Forest, Stevenage 1-1 Tranmere, Bristol Rovers 3-3 Bradford and Oxford 2-1 Northampton in the Goals! Goals! Goals!, my only regret is not shoving my usual £5 on it, budgetary constraints meant a mere £2.50 stake turns into a £66.71 win. FOWLER!!

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by bcubed » 24 Nov 2012 17:38

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super darren caskey Does anyone else worry when Ledge gets the ball or is it just me?

He seems to slow play down when he gets the ball when we could have a good counter on.He has been great for us in the championship and i thank him for that but...he shouldnt be starting any more.


Now we all know why Colin let Legs and Gorkss go. He's had the last laugh on us!

Apart from helping getting us promoted

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by RoyalBlue » 24 Nov 2012 17:44

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super darren caskey Does anyone else worry when Ledge gets the ball or is it just me?

He seems to slow play down when he gets the ball when we could have a good counter on.He has been great for us in the championship and i thank him for that but...he shouldnt be starting any more.


Now we all know why Colin let Legs and Gorkss go. He's had the last laugh on us!

Apart from helping getting us promoted


Missing the point. He knew they were great players for the Championship but would be completely out of their depth in the PL. And boy has he proven to be right.

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by sandman » 24 Nov 2012 17:46

He also signed Danny Gabbidon and Anton Ferdinand to replace Gorkss so if I were him I wouldn't laugh too hard.
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by Ian Royal » 24 Nov 2012 17:47

They still got us here. They've more than paid for themselves.

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by Esteban » 24 Nov 2012 17:48

Colin Cheeselog We seem incapable of stopping teams from shooting. Players break through our midfield and defence almost at will, and when you give the ball away as much we do that means we’re relying on players missing most of their chances and/or our keeper having a blinder. I think overall we’ve been very fortunate not to have conceded more this season.

In recent games our opposition have had:

Wigan 19 shots
Everton 21 shots
QPR 23 shots
Swansea 25 shots
Liverpool 23 shots

We’re unlikley to win games where we give the opposition that many chances.


I'm not disputing that, but the stats also need to show how many of them were from distance. Last season we allowed a lot of shots against us, but many of them were from range.

Anyway, what we lack is quality. Not desire, not passion, not work rate, not the manager in my opinion, it's quality. That must, and I think will, be addressed in January. All the questions surrounding our formation or moving players inside are a matter of opinion, but we had enough experience on the pitch to close the game out. I felt we were in top in that game, but we gifted Wigan the points. I think Brian will be furious after that. We should have won it fairly comfortably.

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by bcubed » 24 Nov 2012 17:50

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Now we all know why Colin let Legs and Gorkss go. He's had the last laugh on us!

Apart from helping getting us promoted


Missing the point. He knew they were great players for the Championship but would be completely out of their depth in the PL. And boy has he proven to be right.


Not missing the point at all
They were good for us so he doesn't really have the last laugh
If we subsequently don't recognise their limitations and don't replace them once promoted that's a different story

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by RoyalBlue » 24 Nov 2012 17:50

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Colin Cheeselog We seem incapable of stopping teams from shooting. Players break through our midfield and defence almost at will, and when you give the ball away as much we do that means we’re relying on players missing most of their chances and/or our keeper having a blinder. I think overall we’ve been very fortunate not to have conceded more this season.

In recent games our opposition have had:

Wigan 19 shots
Everton 21 shots
QPR 23 shots
Swansea 25 shots
Liverpool 23 shots

We’re unlikley to win games where we give the opposition that many chances.


I'm not disputing that, but the stats also need to show how many of them were from distance. Last season we allowed a lot of shots against us, but many of them were from range.

Anyway, what we lack is quality. Not desire, not passion, not work rate, not the manager in my opinion, it's quality. That must, and I think will, be addressed in January. All the questions surrounding our formation or moving players inside are a matter of opinion, but we had enough experience on the pitch to close the game out. I felt we were in top in that game, but we gifted Wigan the points. I think Brian will be furious after that. We should have won it fairly comfortably.


Based on the signings they made over the summer, I wouldn't rely on McDermott and Hammond to rectify the situation in January.


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by Royal Ginger » 24 Nov 2012 17:53

Alf was wasteful today. Would've swapped Pog on for him instead. Pog is never going to be the creative link player that Roberts is, but as a poacher, you can't fault his goals to shots record.

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by peterroyal76 » 24 Nov 2012 18:07

Royal Ginger Alf was wasteful today. Would've swapped Pog on for him instead. Pog is never going to be the creative link player that Roberts is, but as a poacher, you can't fault his goals to shots record.


You do know you're not allowed to say this don't you?

We're supposed to be getting on Pog's back as it is his fault we lost today.

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by windermere_royal » 24 Nov 2012 18:09

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Royal Ginger Alf was wasteful today. Would've swapped Pog on for him instead. Pog is never going to be the creative link player that Roberts is, but as a poacher, you can't fault his goals to shots record.


You do know you're not allowed to say this don't you?

We're supposed to be getting on Pog's back as it is his fault we lost today.


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by sandman » 24 Nov 2012 18:10

Btw, well done to the Academy after their 6-1 win against Blackburn today.


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by Basingstoke Royal » 24 Nov 2012 18:16

Yes it was a big game today and disappointed to lose, but dont overreact again people.

we are outside the relegation zone and I'm happy there.

As long as we get to January in this position with the option to strengthen them we have a good chance of survival.

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by Simon's Church » 24 Nov 2012 18:18

Basingstoke Royal we are outside the relegation zone and I'm happy there.

Not if the Villa score stays the same.

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by Avon Royal » 24 Nov 2012 18:18

Basingstoke Royal we are outside the relegation zone and I'm happy there.


Not at the moment we aren't. :roll:

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by Snowball » 24 Nov 2012 18:21

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Basingstoke Royal we are outside the relegation zone and I'm happy there.

Not if the Villa score stays the same.



and or Southampton get a result

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by ManchesterRoyals » 24 Nov 2012 19:15

Back in the bottom 3 again :evil:

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by RoyalBlue » 24 Nov 2012 20:03

ManchesterRoyals Back in the bottom 3 again :evil:


Better hope Pardew does us a favour or it's the bottom two soon.

At this rate even the RTGs will be starting to feel a little less calm.

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by LoyalRoyal22 » 24 Nov 2012 20:04

Dont get all the suggestions we deserved something from the game. Wigan were clearly the better side

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