Gibraltar

[Stranded]

:lol: It'll be Yorkshire next.....

You now have to be a member of the UN to be accepted. As Gibraltar had passed the entry criteria before this change, UEFA had to let them in.

[soggy biscuit]

Does Gibraltar have it's own league, if so will we see them in the CL as well?

yes & yes

[Stuka]

When will Jersey get in? They have expressed interest before:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19800034

Anyway as an England supporter, I'd be glad for more little 'nations' getting in because with so many all these places like San Marino and Andorra etc will have a mini-tournament to qualify rather than clogging up the main group stages.

[Zaretsky]

Gibraltar's Dennis Compton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Buzaglo

A m8 of mine is from Gibraltar and plays for the cricket team - there's a kind of islands and minnow nations circuit of international matches. He's a half decent cricketer in any case.

[Zaretsky]

Gibraltar isn't a country.

So throw England, Scotland, Wales and NI out of UEFA too.

England, Scotland, Wales and NI are countries. 'Country' has no real legal-political meaning though.

[Clyde1998]

Interesting to see that Spain voted Gibraltar in

[paultheroyal]

Next up Isle of Wight!

[Albert Spangler]

Gibraltar isn't a country.

So throw England, Scotland, Wales and NI out of UEFA too.

England, Scotland, Wales and NI are countries. 'Country' has no real legal-political meaning though.

I'm 28,by the way.


United Kingdom is a country. The above are provinces. Gibraltar's a flamin' territory!

[Stuka]

Interesting to see that Spain voted Gibraltar in

Weird! What was the motivation for that?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Gibraltar isn't a country.

So throw England, Scotland, Wales and NI out of UEFA too.

England, Scotland, Wales and NI are countries. 'Country' has no real legal-political meaning though.

I'm 28,by the way.


United Kingdom is a country. The above are provinces.

No. They are countries.

Here you go - the beginner's guide to the administrative geography of the UK
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/ ... index.html

[bobbybottler]

Gibraltar's Dennis Compton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Buzaglo

I used to erm date a young lady who had previously erm dated him.

That's my claim to fame, right there.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Let's clarify this...

The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands (split as Jersey and Guernsey) are what's known as British Crown dependencies. This means they while they are possessions of the British crown they are, in fact, self governing. Also, because they are independently administered, they are NOT part of the United Kingdom, the Commonwealth or the European Union (except for the movement of goods). They are members of the British-Irish council however and they are also treated as part of the UK for British passport control purposes.

Acts passed in the British parliament do not apply to crown dependencies unless explicitly stipulated, however parliament does have the right to legislate for the Islands if it is necessary to do so but this is very rare. The only matters deferred to the UK government are matters concerning defence, citizenship and diplomatic representation.

Gibraltar is classed as a British Overseas Territory, this means that it is under the jurisdiction of the UK but is not actually a part of it. Territories are former parts of the British Empire that have either not acquired independence or have voted to remain as British. There are 14 British Overseas Territories in total.

The United Kingdom is a sovereign state comprising of the countries; England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is another name for the United Kingdom although when it was first used it did mean only the countries of Scotland, England and Wales. Lastly the term British Isles includes the United Kingdom and the whole of Ireland.

Therefore Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man could all be next up to join UEFA.

[PieEater]

You spoilt that wonderful explanation with this:

Great Britain is another name for the United Kingdom .

[Stuka]

GB is simply the geographical island which England, Scotland, and Wales form part of. It annoyed me (well not really) that the Olympic team is called Team GB when there's no such legal entity as Great Britain any more since Ireland joined the Union, and part of it remains so. Great Britain used to be a specific country but not any more.

Anyway back on topic- if Gibraltar football team plays Andorra would the game be in Barcelona and thus Spain? Andorra seem to play some of their games there at Espanyol's ground. The Catalonians wouldn't mind of course, judging by the Gib FA's facebook page they are getting a lot of congratulatory messages from up there.

[Clyde1998]

Interesting to see that Spain voted Gibraltar in

Weird! What was the motivation for that?

Spain and Gibraltar will be kept apart in qualifying draws - similar to what happens with Armenia and Azerbaijan, and Georgia and Russia. Spain won't play Gibraltar and thus Gibraltar won't affect them.

[Stuka]

But it does affect them from a romantic / nationalist point of view doesn't it? To have territory they claim given this kind of status and attention, even just in football. Also I thought they were opposed since they didn't want to encourage Catalonia and the Basque Country to follow suit, even though their constitutional status means they are currently part of Spain proper.

[Stranded]

Let's clarify this...

The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands (split as Jersey and Guernsey) are what's known as British Crown dependencies. This means they while they are possessions of the British crown they are, in fact, self governing. Also, because they are independently administered, they are NOT part of the United Kingdom, the Commonwealth or the European Union (except for the movement of goods). They are members of the British-Irish council however and they are also treated as part of the UK for British passport control purposes.

Acts passed in the British parliament do not apply to crown dependencies unless explicitly stipulated, however parliament does have the right to legislate for the Islands if it is necessary to do so but this is very rare. The only matters deferred to the UK government are matters concerning defence, citizenship and diplomatic representation.

Gibraltar is classed as a British Overseas Territory, this means that it is under the jurisdiction of the UK but is not actually a part of it. Territories are former parts of the British Empire that have either not acquired independence or have voted to remain as British. There are 14 British Overseas Territories in total.

The United Kingdom is a sovereign state comprising of the countries; England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is another name for the United Kingdom although when it was first used it did mean only the countries of Scotland, England and Wales. Lastly the term British Isles includes the United Kingdom and the whole of Ireland.

Therefore Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man could all be next up to join UEFA.

But only if they seen as countries by the UN in line with the UEFA rule book.

[Clyde1998]

To become a UEFA member you must be able to become a FIFA member - guidelines for becoming a FIFA member are:

1 - Any Association which is responsible for organising and supervising football in its country may become a Member of FIFA. In this context, the expression “country” shall refer to an independent state recognised by the international community. Subject to part 5 and part 6 below, only one Association shall be recognised in each country.
2 - Membership is only permitted if an Association has already been a provisional member of a Confederation for at least two years.
3 - Any Association wishing to become a Member of FIFA shall apply in writing to the FIFA general secretariat.
4 - The Association’s legally valid statutes shall be enclosed with the application for membership and shall contain the following mandatory provisions:
(a) always to comply with the Statutes, regulations and decisions of FIFA and of its Confederation;
(b) to comply with the Laws of the Game in force;
(c) to recognise the Court of Arbitration for Sport, as specified in these Statutes.
5 - Each of the four British Associations is recognised as a separate Member of FIFA.
6 - An Association in a region which has not yet gained independence may, with the authorisation of the Association in the country on which it is dependent, also apply for admission to FIFA.
7 - The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes shall regulate the details of the procedure for admission.
8 - This article shall not affect the status of existing Members.

[Albert Spangler]

If this was Pointless, Richard would be reminding us that a country must be a sovereign state as recognised by the UN.


Richard Osman is much more reliable arbiter than is UEFA and Gibraltar don't qualify.

[Stuka]

If this was Pointless, Richard would be reminding us that a country must be a sovereign state as recognised by the UN.


Richard Osman is much more reliable arbiter than is UEFA and Gibraltar don't qualify.

They find themselves between a rock and a hard place.