Avon RoyalZacNaloen Second time in two days i've been accused of being in denial
Might be something in it then.........ZacNaloen England have been shit for as long as I have been watching football.
So your problem with me saying that they are shit is what exactly?
winchester_royalURZZZZZ Which one winch
The Italy game was a major tournament QF.
URZZZZZ Oh and spizz, the stuff about the PL being the best in the world is all a myth
URZZZZZwinchester_royalURZZZZZ Which one winch
The Italy game was a major tournament QF.
And how long ago was this??
ZacNaloen
I KNOW England are below average that's my whole point about why it's silly to be critical or doom and gloom when we spank 27th in the world, and I'm not entirely convinced we should do better.
I think Englands problem is that we under rate the importance of certain footballing attributes and it means that teams who "on paper" should be poorer than us can in fact make us look very ordinary. In other words, our players aren't as good as our media, managers, coaches and fans think they are.
In terms of the quality of our national team we are reaping what we sowed for the last 30 years and are exactly where we deserve to be.
URZZZZZ Oh and quick ? To any who fell like answering, who do you find more frustrating to watch, reading or england
winchester_royalURZZZZZ Oh and spizz, the stuff about the PL being the best in the world is all a myth
Depends on how you want to look at things. In terms of the quality of the very top teams? No it probably isn't. But in terms of competitiveness and drama it's very close.
For example, lets look at the number of points separating the top 4 in Europe's 'best' leagues.7
France - 4 points.
Spain - 7 points.
Italy - 7 points.
Germany - 7 points.
England - 2 points.
ZacNaloenAvon RoyalZacNaloen Second time in two days i've been accused of being in denial
Might be something in it then.........ZacNaloen England have been shit for as long as I have been watching football.
So your problem with me saying that they are shit is what exactly?
THAT WASN'T MY PROBLEM.
Welcome to the conversation at last.
Avon RoyalZacNaloen
I KNOW England are below average that's my whole point about why it's silly to be critical or doom and gloom when we spank 27th in the world, and I'm not entirely convinced we should do better.
I think Englands problem is that we under rate the importance of certain footballing attributes and it means that teams who "on paper" should be poorer than us can in fact make us look very ordinary. In other words, our players aren't as good as our media, managers, coaches and fans think they are.
In terms of the quality of our national team we are reaping what we sowed for the last 30 years and are exactly where we deserve to be.
Credit where credit is due - that is some top quality goalpost shifting.
ZacNaloenAvon RoyalZacNaloen
I KNOW England are below average that's my whole point about why it's silly to be critical or doom and gloom when we spank 27th in the world, and I'm not entirely convinced we should do better.
I think Englands problem is that we under rate the importance of certain footballing attributes and it means that teams who "on paper" should be poorer than us can in fact make us look very ordinary. In other words, our players aren't as good as our media, managers, coaches and fans think they are.
In terms of the quality of our national team we are reaping what we sowed for the last 30 years and are exactly where we deserve to be.
Credit where credit is due - that is some top quality goalpost shifting.
The problem I had is not that you were saying it England was shit, but that you were saying that and implying we should be winning comfortably anyway.
"oh we are so shit, they are so shit why aren't we winning"
Maybe it was because we are shit.
In the end we won.
"Yeh but it's only Montengro"
But I thought we were shit?
URZZZZZwinchester_royalURZZZZZ Oh and spizz, the stuff about the PL being the best in the world is all a myth
Depends on how you want to look at things. In terms of the quality of the very top teams? No it probably isn't. But in terms of competitiveness and drama it's very close.
For example, lets look at the number of points separating the top 4 in Europe's 'best' leagues.7
France - 4 points.
Spain - 7 points.
Italy - 7 points.
Germany - 7 points.
England - 2 points.
I meant in terms of the quality if football, not how competitive it is. If that was the case it would be the championship by far, never more than 10 points separating playoffs to just anove relegation
apart from the lower leagues where the few and rare discoveries are madewinchester_royal [The PL isn't even close to perfect, but at least they try and distribute the revenue with some semblance of equality.
URZZZZZ Agreed, but just because the prem may be my fav league in the world doesn't make it the best
Zac Naloen Depends how you define best.
It's probably one of the most entertaining because it's so helter skelter. Is that how you want to define best?
AthleticoSpizzapart from the lower leagues where the few and rare discoveries are madewinchester_royal [The PL isn't even close to perfect, but at least they try and distribute the revenue with some semblance of equality.
especially step5 and below
They distribute their money?
dont make us lol
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