McShane-Ferdinand

[Steve_Upper_West]

Ferdinand-Hector for me. None of them are as reliable as Pearce who is a big loss, but those two are the best.

I take it you have not seen McShane play yet or this just a wind-up

[marlowuk]

Ferdinand-Hector for me. None of them are as reliable as Pearce.

And neither (none!) of them as slow as Pearce!

[Nameless]

Ferdinand isn't slow at all !

Not going to rubbish Pearce, he was a great servant and could never be accused of not giving everything on the pitch and having a genuine love for the club.

But I do think our current centre back options are much stronger than they were last season ....

[Snowball]

ASC's "explanation" for not playing Ferdinand at Birmingham sounds like he sees Anton as back up (which seems crazy for a 30-year-old who has had over 200 Premiership games.)

Have we ever had this much quality and depth at CB?

McShane
Ferdinand
Hector
Cooper
Keown
Gunter
McSweeney
Chalobah?

[Hoop Blah]

It doesn't sound so crazy for a player who's played just a couple of hours of competitive football in the best part of 3 years though.

[John Smith]

Ferdinand-Hector for me. None of them are as reliable as Pearce who is a big loss, but those two are the best.

Are you utterly utterly mental? Are you? The only thing that bloke was reliable for was making big errors, which he's clearly continued to do at his new club.

McShane was solid the other night, hit the bar on Saturday - he's slotted right into the team already. I'd put Hector alongside him to nurture his development.

[RoyallyFcuked]

Can you explain how you've reached the conclusion that Clarke thought Pearce was a liability when he:
1. Played him in most games last season
2. Didn't sign a centreback last season
3. offered Pearce a contract to stay here this summer.

You can't because it's just your personal bias transferring your view onto Clarke when there's zilch to suggest he'd agree.

I'm a big fan of Pearce and think he was far from the weak link last year, although even I wouldn't go as far as SCIAG. McShane and a fit Ferdinand are adequate replacements and leave us stronger overall.

Actually, I can.

1. What choice did he have? How many other experienced centre backs that were fit to play a match did we have last season Ian? You really are clueless sometimes. He actually would have been better off playing Cooper but he didnt want to let on that he didnt rate Pearce until the summer when he could let him go so he played him in most games until the end of the season. To be honest it still wouldn't have been unfair to drop him after some of his howlers last season.

2. Seriously? Again, he had no choice. But actually he did sign Knight. That shows you just how limited his options were. He knew he had to wait until the summer.

3. You're being very naive but you think that if you want to. I'm pretty sure Clarke told him he wasn't in his plans, but as he had been at the club for a long time I'm sure they gave him the chance to say it was his choice to leave (this does happen in football). I seriously doubt whether he was offered a new deal and to be honest I'd have my doubts about Clarke if he was.

You're a big fan of Pearce but your own personal bias isn't coming into it all then? Pearce was the biggest weak link last season, get over it.

[RoyallyFcuked]

Ferdinand-Hector for me. None of them are as reliable as Pearce who is a big loss, but those two are the best.

Are you utterly utterly mental? Are you? The only thing that bloke was reliable for was making big errors, which he's clearly continued to do at his new club.

McShane was solid the other night, hit the bar on Saturday - he's slotted right into the team already. I'd put Hector alongside him to nurture his development.

Exactly, some on here are clearly still living in the 2011/12 season.

[melonhead]

hector is no more or less reliable that pearce. theyre both prone to errors.

[Lower West]

hector is no more or less reliable that pearce. theyre both prone to errors.

Hector has the potential to become a far better player.

[Barcelona Blue]

Its seems like its going well for those two on a positive note,

Colchester CLEAN SHEET- 90 mins + 30 mins

LEEDS CLEAN SHEET 90 mins

Wednesday 89 mins before goalkeeping error


thats a pretty good record

[Royalwaster]

Think they're excellent - McShane/Ferdinand >>>>> Pearce/Hector

[melonhead]

hector is no more or less reliable that pearce. theyre both prone to errors.

Hector has the potential to become a far better player.

100% agreed. but still currently just as prone to errors as pearce

[SCIAG]

He actually would have been better off playing Cooper but he didnt want to let on that he didnt rate Pearce until the summer when he could let him go so he played him in most games until the end of the season.

Why? It's not like we needed to convince someone to shell out for him. You think Clarke would risk his job deliberately picking a weakened side? Risk the chance to win the FA Cup?

3. You're being very naive but you think that if you want to. I'm pretty sure Clarke told him he wasn't in his plans, but as he had been at the club for a long time I'm sure they gave him the chance to say it was his choice to leave (this does happen in football). I seriously doubt whether he was offered a new deal and to be honest I'd have my doubts about Clarke if he was.

You have absolutely no evidence to back this up.

We didn't give Murty or Hahnemann or Ingimarsson or Harper that opportunity. What if Pearce hadn't found a new club or had just come out and said that he hadn't been offered a new deal - bit embarrassing for us?

[Upper West Ginger]

Still early days yet, but if this pair stay fit and suspension-free, they could be the best pairing since Sonko and Ingimarsson.

[melonhead]

it is nice to not be worried about either CB currently

[Ian Royal]

He actually would have been better off playing Cooper but he didnt want to let on that he didnt rate Pearce until the summer when he could let him go so he played him in most games until the end of the season.

Why? It's not like we needed to convince someone to shell out for him. You think Clarke would risk his job deliberately picking a weakened side? Risk the chance to win the FA Cup?

3. You're being very naive but you think that if you want to. I'm pretty sure Clarke told him he wasn't in his plans, but as he had been at the club for a long time I'm sure they gave him the chance to say it was his choice to leave (this does happen in football). I seriously doubt whether he was offered a new deal and to be honest I'd have my doubts about Clarke if he was.

You have absolutely no evidence to back this up.

We didn't give Murty or Hahnemann or Ingimarsson or Harper that opportunity. What if Pearce hadn't found a new club or had just come out and said that he hadn't been offered a new deal - bit embarrassing for us?

This is also the Cooper who played in both our worst defeats last season. Potental there, but madness to say he was better than Pearce.

[RoyallyFcuked]

He actually would have been better off playing Cooper but he didnt want to let on that he didnt rate Pearce until the summer when he could let him go so he played him in most games until the end of the season.

Why? It's not like we needed to convince someone to shell out for him. You think Clarke would risk his job deliberately picking a weakened side? Risk the chance to win the FA Cup?

3. You're being very naive but you think that if you want to. I'm pretty sure Clarke told him he wasn't in his plans, but as he had been at the club for a long time I'm sure they gave him the chance to say it was his choice to leave (this does happen in football). I seriously doubt whether he was offered a new deal and to be honest I'd have my doubts about Clarke if he was.

You have absolutely no evidence to back this up.

We didn't give Murty or Hahnemann or Ingimarsson or Harper that opportunity. What if Pearce hadn't found a new club or had just come out and said that he hadn't been offered a new deal - bit embarrassing for us?

This is also the Cooper who played in both our worst defeats last season. Potental there, but madness to say he was better than Pearce.

Still, Cooper is a young kid so he's bound to. He will learn from it and get better, meanwhile Pearce is supposed to be experienced yet he's making more mistakes than anyone else.

Could not have Pearce leading the team or even defence this season, the rest of the defence isnt going to want to learn, respect or take orders from someone who is making so many blunders, which is why he had to go.

[Hoop Blah]

Hands up from me, Ferdinand has already played more games this season than I thought he would and he's proved me wrong that he couldn't get back to fitness and sharpness to play properly at this level.

Pleased to be proved wrong for now, I just hope he can maintain it.

I'm still not as convinced by Hector as the majority either. Lots and lots of potential but a bit typical of modern centre halfs in that he wants to be a bit too clever instead of just concentrating on the basics of defending first and foremost.

Clarke dropping him at the moment could be the making of him.

[St. Brynjar]

Still early days yet, but if this pair stay fit and suspension-free, they could be the best pairing since Sonko and Ingimarsson.

Surely not better than Gorkss-Pearce in the promotion season?