Law Changes

[Handsome Man]

Dislike 3, but agree with the principal of 4.

The current triple punishment is wrong. I'd like to see a pen and yellow given in all cases, except where a certain goal is denied (eg deliberate hand ball on the line). The award of a penalty is adv the attacking team in almost all circumstances apart from that.

The professional foul rule has been a good one, well implemented, and I don't see why they would want to mess with it. It's not a triple punishment, as the penalty is simply providing an equivalent goal-scoring opportunity.

The unfairness in Darren Fletcher being banned for a Champions League final arose over a tough decision over a foul, not because of any laws concerning red cards.

[Sanguine]

As the article states, 3 is not the broad removal of the rule that players must leave the field after treatment. Players will be allowed to remain on the field if they require treatment after a yellow or red card foul only. It's a good middle ground.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Dislike 3, but agree with the principal of 4.

The current triple punishment is wrong. I'd like to see a pen and yellow given in all cases, except where a certain goal is denied (eg deliberate hand ball on the line). The award of a penalty is adv the attacking team in almost all circumstances apart from that.

The professional foul rule has been a good one, well implemented, and I don't see why they would want to mess with it. It's not a triple punishment, as the penalty is simply providing an equivalent goal-scoring opportunity.

The unfairness in Darren Fletcher being banned for a Champions League final arose over a tough decision over a foul, not because of any laws concerning red cards.

Penalty
Red Card
Suspension

Triple Punishment

[Handsome Man]

Dislike 3, but agree with the principal of 4.

The current triple punishment is wrong. I'd like to see a pen and yellow given in all cases, except where a certain goal is denied (eg deliberate hand ball on the line). The award of a penalty is adv the attacking team in almost all circumstances apart from that.

The professional foul rule has been a good one, well implemented, and I don't see why they would want to mess with it. It's not a triple punishment, as the penalty is simply providing an equivalent goal-scoring opportunity.

The unfairness in Darren Fletcher being banned for a Champions League final arose over a tough decision over a foul, not because of any laws concerning red cards.

Penalty
Red Card
Suspension

Triple Punishment

Double punishment as the penalty simply replaces one goal-scoring opportunity with another.

[Platypuss]

One compensation and two punishments.

[stealthpapes]

Dislike 3, but agree with the principal of 4.

The current triple punishment is wrong. I'd like to see a pen and yellow given in all cases, except where a certain goal is denied (eg deliberate hand ball on the line). The award of a penalty is adv the attacking team in almost all circumstances apart from that.

Double/triple punishment

I think *all* fouls are effectively doubly punished. The player, for the severity of his foul, and the team, for where the foul took place.

The only issue is that some referees give a red when a yellow would probably have done - i.e clumsy rather than cynical in the area, anything involving a one-on-one not directly in line with goal.

[stealthpapes]

Oh, the triple is the suspension?

Same point, with the punishment for both. But again, mitigated by more sensible refereeing and not overdoing the 3 match ban.

It's the same principle with every foul.

[Royal With Cheese]

1. Penalty goal for handball in the box and yellow card for the offender.

2. Trainers can come on during the game.

3. Removal of every slow motion camera from every ground and the banning of the instant replay.

4. All players shorts the size of barrage balloons and the re-introduction of pigs bladders as balls.

[tmesis]

Penalty
Red Card
Suspension

Triple Punishment

It's only a triple if it's inside the box though. For professional fouls, I've no problem with the triple punishment.

I do, however, agree with not giving a red card for those "fouls" where an attacker just runs alongside the defender and goes down claiming "contact". Mind you, I'd rather the change there is that they didn't give a foul at all, unless they genuinely feel that the defender's contact caused the player to fall.

[Handsome Man]

Penalty
Red Card
Suspension

Triple Punishment

It's only a triple if it's inside the box though. For professional fouls, I've no problem with the triple punishment.

I do, however, agree with not giving a red card for those "fouls" where an attacker just runs alongside the defender and goes down claiming "contact". Mind you, I'd rather the change there is that they didn't give a foul at all, unless they genuinely feel that the defender's contact caused the player to fall.

I think this is right. The issue causing problems at the moment is not so much what cards are given, but what constitutes a foul, and it is that which needs clarifying. There are pundits who see contact as a justification for any penalty, but Howard Webb certainly doesn't seem to give that impression on the BT live games. This needs sorting out before TV replays can be used.

[Forbury Lion]

How often would 2 happen?

Punch up in the tunnel before the game, 6 players sent off from Neil Warnock's side and the match is abandoned before it even starts..... it later turns out that all 3 of their goalkeepers were injured falling out of the coach and the manager saw this as a way to get the match postponed until they were fit again.

[Sutekh]

How often would 2 happen?

Punch up in the tunnel before the game, 6 players sent off from Neil Warnock's side and the match is abandoned before it even starts..... it later turns out that all 3 of their goalkeepers were injured falling out of the coach and the manager saw this as a way to get the match postponed until they were fit again.

Imagine that. You're sat in the stand having seen the warm up and settling down to avoid another afternoon round the shops with your other half only to be told just before the teams run out that there has "been an occurrence" and therefore the match has to be abandoned because one team doesn't have enough players left.

[Forbury Lion]

How often would 2 happen?

Punch up in the tunnel before the game, 6 players sent off from Neil Warnock's side and the match is abandoned before it even starts..... it later turns out that all 3 of their goalkeepers were injured falling out of the coach and the manager saw this as a way to get the match postponed until they were fit again.

Imagine that. You're sat in the stand having seen the warm up and settling down to avoid another afternoon round the shops with your other half only to be told just before the teams run out that there has "been an occurrence" and therefore the match has to be abandoned because one team doesn't have enough players left.

I imagine the PA announcer will deliver it in his usual energetic style and finish the sentence off with something about the legendary atmosphere..... probably leave it until the last minute too so that hotdog and beer sales pre-match are maximised.

[Winston Smith]

they are having a play around with some laws in the Copa America to see how they work out

4th substitute allowed if the game goes into extra time

Video replay assistant at the side who the ref can ask for help from

Penalty to be awarded for abusive language towards an official

[Deadlock]

Penalty to be awarded for abusive language towards an official

Anywhere on the pitch, or just in the area?

[Winston Smith]

Penalty to be awarded for abusive language towards an official

Anywhere on the pitch, or just in the area?

anywhere I believe.

[stealthpapes]

hijo de puta

[Huckleberry Hound]

As the article states, 3 is not the broad removal of the rule that players must leave the field after treatment. Players will be allowed to remain on the field if they require treatment after a yellow or red card foul only. It's a good middle ground.

Expect to see more imaginary card waving as the players catch on to this.