Out of Contract 2022

[Snowflake Royal]

please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

Perhaps a mistake to re-sign Dann. We really do not need both of them plus McIntyre, Holmes, Moore and potentially Thomas and Dorsett. We desperately need Moore off the books.

Aye, terrible decision.

McIntyre and Holmes should both be fighting for the same place... ie the slower position. None of them, Dann or Morrison should be a first choice partnership. They should qll be competing for the same slot and only play together if there are injuries.

Should be:
2 of McIntyre, Holmes, Morrison, Dann
Paired with
Someone with pace, Thomas

Plus Dorsett or Abbey or Stickland, with the other two out on loan.

[6ft Kerplunk]

Some insider account that seemed to be set up just to leak that Bowen is returning, has tweeted that Morrison will sign a new deal alongside Yiadom this week.

Not too sure on that one unless there is an element of coaching involved - hopefully be no more than an experienced squad option and not a starter next year.

please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

So not in our defence with our midfield in front of him then.

[Snowflake Royal]

please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

So not in our defence with our midfield in front of him then.

Tbf, I don't think many will be ok partnered with one of our other CBs and protected by our midfield

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I can imagine Dorsett may go back out on loan next season, potentially to a L1 club, to progress and hopefully succeed at that level.

If Moore was to leave, we'd have Holmes, Dann, Morrison and McIntyre. Holmes may not sign a new deal yet and McIntyre could move into midfield potentially in a more fixed position, especially if Rino and/or Laurent do not re-sign. We could effectively have 2 CB's come next season.

I don't think re-signing Dann was a mistake, but I believe he should be used as a squad player, like Morrison and allow us to bring a CB in with quality and that can cover our weaknesses. Dion Sanderson, for example, could be one option.

[Stranded]

I can imagine Dorsett may go back out on loan next season, potentially to a L1 club, to progress and hopefully succeed at that level.

If Moore was to leave, we'd have Holmes, Dann, Morrison and McIntyre. Holmes may not sign a new deal yet and McIntyre could move into midfield potentially in a more fixed position, especially if Rino and/or Laurent do not re-sign. We could effectively have 2 CB's come next season.

I don't think re-signing Dann was a mistake, but I believe he should be used as a squad player, like Morrison and allow us to bring a CB in with quality and that can cover our weaknesses. Dion Sanderson, for example, could be one option.

Holmes will sign, there was a relatively cryptic response to a Meite post on Instagram that suggests he is likely to.

[SCIAG]

Not sure I buy the obsession with "pace" for a centre back. Remember the Duberry-Ivar partnership that got us to 4th? Or the Pearce-Gorkss partnership that got us promoted?

Reminds me a bit of how in the period between Kitson leaving and Roberts joining, a regular talking point was that we should pick Mooney/Brett Williams/Sheppard/Manset because they were "big".

In the right system it doesn't matter much if your centre backs are "slow", as long as they make up for it with good positioning. Give me a partnership of Dann and McIntyre who can both read a game ahead of one of them with a mediocre League One defender who can run quickly.

[Snowflake Royal]

Not sure I buy the obsession with "pace" for a centre back. Remember the Duberry-Ivar partnership that got us to 4th? Or the Pearce-Gorkss partnership that got us promoted?

Reminds me a bit of how in the period between Kitson leaving and Roberts joining, a regular talking point was that we should pick Mooney/Brett Williams/Sheppard/Manset because they were "big".

In the right system it doesn't matter much if your centre backs are "slow", as long as they make up for it with good positioning. Give me a partnership of Dann and McIntyre who can both read a game ahead of one of them with a mediocre League One defender who can run quickly.

Pace affects where you can hold your defensive line. Lack of it means you have to hold it deeper, or be exposed in behind and to being run at from turnovers.

Deeper means your whole team has to sit deeper or leave a bigger gap between midfield and defence which can be exploited. If midfield sits deeper it's less able to progress forward in possession and support attack.

Time and again last season Morrison, Holmes, McIntyre and Dann's lack of pace was exposed in those scenarios.

Ivar wasn't quick, but he was quicker than most of them. Him and Duberry were better than them. As was Gorkss, at least.

It's not so much that we need someone quick, as we need someone not glacially slow like them.

On top of that, full backs play further forward these days leaving the flanks more exposed with CBs having to cover more ground. And CBs often get pulled higher and split further in possession because of stupid attempts to make them playmakers, meaning they're less able to support each other or get back without greater pace.

It isn't pace for the sake of pace, it's resolving a glaring weakness in the side that is being regularly exploited and costing us.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I can imagine Dorsett may go back out on loan next season, potentially to a L1 club, to progress and hopefully succeed at that level.

If Moore was to leave, we'd have Holmes, Dann, Morrison and McIntyre. Holmes may not sign a new deal yet and McIntyre could move into midfield potentially in a more fixed position, especially if Rino and/or Laurent do not re-sign. We could effectively have 2 CB's come next season.

I don't think re-signing Dann was a mistake, but I believe he should be used as a squad player, like Morrison and allow us to bring a CB in with quality and that can cover our weaknesses. Dion Sanderson, for example, could be one option.

Holmes will sign, there was a relatively cryptic response to a Meite post on Instagram that suggests he is likely to.

I believe Meite is contracted until next season anyway as it stands, but hopefully we can get him and Joao tied down to new deals as the course of next season progresses.

[andrew1957]

Good news. Charlton have released Gunter and so if Yiadom doesn't sign a new contract, we should be able to get Gunter back as a free agent.

[Hendo]

Good news. Charlton have released Gunter and so if Yiadom doesn't sign a new contract, we should be able to get Gunter back as a free agent.

[NathStPaul]

Would like it to happen just to see the level of meltdown.

[tidus_mi2]

Some insider account that seemed to be set up just to leak that Bowen is returning, has tweeted that Morrison will sign a new deal alongside Yiadom this week.

Not too sure on that one unless there is an element of coaching involved - hopefully be no more than an experienced squad option and not a starter next year.

please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

What do you base that on? Dann didn't seem to do anything wrong last season but had horrific luck with injuries, before he joined us he was on the back of 7.5 seasons in the Premier League, Morrison meanwhile has never played in the Premier League.

Unless the injuries have set him back massively, which considering his age, is possible, he would otherwise be our best centre back.

[NathStPaul]

please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

What do you base that on? Dann didn't seem to do anything wrong last season but had horrific luck with injuries, before he joined us he was on the back of 7.5 seasons in the Premier League, Morrison meanwhile has never played in the Premier League.

Unless the injuries have set him back massively, which considering his age, is possible, he would otherwise be our best centre back.

They are both much the same aren't they? Certainly shouldn't be re-signing both of them.

[tidus_mi2]

He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection

What do you base that on? Dann didn't seem to do anything wrong last season but had horrific luck with injuries, before he joined us he was on the back of 7.5 seasons in the Premier League, Morrison meanwhile has never played in the Premier League.

Unless the injuries have set him back massively, which considering his age, is possible, he would otherwise be our best centre back.

They are both much the same aren't they? Certainly shouldn't be re-signing both of them.

Oh I absolutely agree with this and if I had to pick just one I'd go with Morrison because we should be more confident of getting a full season out of him.

But we've already given Dann an extension.

[PATRIQT]

If Moore was to leave, we'd have Holmes, Dann, Morrison and McIntyre.

An absolutely woeful defence.

McIntyre is better suited to CDM. Holmes developing but generally very iffy. Dann far too slow and same Morrison and makes far too many mistakes. The defence needs a massive overhaul, so someone like Dorsett should most definitely be looked at in pre-season.

[paultheroyal]

Welsh international, be going to the world cup, decent age - no brainer.

[Hendo]

Welsh international, be going to the world cup, decent age - no brainer.

Don't think we can sign Gareth Bale!

[NathStPaul]

Pretty sure I'd get in the Wales World Cup squad, it isn't that difficult.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

If Moore was to leave, we'd have Holmes, Dann, Morrison and McIntyre.

An absolutely woeful defence.

McIntyre is better suited to CDM. Holmes developing but generally very iffy. Dann far too slow and same Morrison and makes far too many mistakes. The defence needs a massive overhaul, so someone like Dorsett should most definitely be looked at in pre-season.

It depends on the structure of the rest of the team in front of them. Your defence is collective, not just the 3/4 members who play in those positions.

I'd bring someone in to partner Holmes. Obviously a new LB and GK to follow as well, hopefully of experience and/or quality. Dorsett maybe isn't quite ready to step in to the first team at this point. Either a squad player or another season out on loan to develop, preferably at L1 level.

[Simon's Church]

Not convinced by any combination of Mcintyre, Holmes, Dann and Morrison tbh, any one of them alongside a fully fit Liam Moore (c) would do a decent job though.