MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 06 Oct 2024 17:51

AthleticoSpizz Don't be so sure about that.

Our bogey team have only lost one of their last six league games
make that seven.

Some here ‘expected’ a win…why?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Oct 2024 18:17

Spoken to a chum who is a ref, and his view of their winner is that there is no intent to play the ball and he'd usually call foul for obstruction, but it's not a categoric error as there's not lots in it. And the FA are putting a higher threshold on upper body contact for fouls on keepers this season.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 06 Oct 2024 18:31

you actually have a ‘chum’? :wink: etc etc….before anybody else chimes in

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Oct 2024 19:34

AthleticoSpizz you actually have a ‘chum’? :wink: etc etc….before anybody else chimes in

Well, he's a bit of a dick sometimes, but we work and play football together.

Most dishonest player I play with, obviously.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 06 Oct 2024 19:47

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AthleticoSpizz you actually have a ‘chum’? :wink: etc etc….before anybody else chimes in

Well, he's a bit of a dick sometimes, but we work and play football together.

Most dishonest player I play with, obviously.
:D he’d fit-in here quite nicely


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Clyde1998 » 06 Oct 2024 20:26

One thing to point out - that was only the fourth time under Selles we've scored first and lost (W23; D5). The previous was Barnsley at home last December.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by South Coast Royal » 06 Oct 2024 20:42

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Hound No suprise Kelv got the yellow. Twat number 2s pathetic dive alongside the dickhead behaviour of their players ensured that

I’ve no huge issue with him standing up for his 16 year old teammate tbh and agree Garcia would have for the yellow otherwise

Didn’t watch the game but looked a bit unlucky with the chance at the end on the highlights. Also noticed Knibbs gets a shove over right at the end - maybe he should have rolled around crying and who knows


The trouble is that Knibbs and some of the others do roll around crying quite a lot (see Knibbs earlier in the game) .
Smith this season has spent a lot of time lying on the ground (admittedly justified now and again) and referees talk to each other so word gets around as to who are the divers.

As for Kelvin it was just stupid and he took one for Garcia who otherwise would have been the one sent off as he was already on a yellow.

Nothing changes-so many professional players are just thick.

Coming back to the game yesterday , we discussed on here last week about how our full-backs fail to block crosses and once again it happened with Craig allowing their player to cross.
With players asked to play out of position it seems churlish to criticise and we just have to stay calm but , despite what others have posted in recent weeks , there is very little to get excited about and we fans just have to bite the bullet and hope for better times ahead.....................one day.

To be fair to Kelvin, if I'd seen a full grown man starting on a 16 year old because they were in a tangle after a fair challenge, I'd have steamed in and shoved him away too.


You might do out on the streets but it is not within a player's remit to go charging in to a minor scuffle on the pitch that had nothing to do with him especially as he had already been booked.
This isn't Sunday League, it is where people are paid to do a job and Kelvin foolishly over stepped the mark having already been foolish to pick up the earlier booking and I hope the manager had a real go at him for letting his side down.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Oct 2024 20:53

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The trouble is that Knibbs and some of the others do roll around crying quite a lot (see Knibbs earlier in the game) .
Smith this season has spent a lot of time lying on the ground (admittedly justified now and again) and referees talk to each other so word gets around as to who are the divers.

As for Kelvin it was just stupid and he took one for Garcia who otherwise would have been the one sent off as he was already on a yellow.

Nothing changes-so many professional players are just thick.

Coming back to the game yesterday , we discussed on here last week about how our full-backs fail to block crosses and once again it happened with Craig allowing their player to cross.
With players asked to play out of position it seems churlish to criticise and we just have to stay calm but , despite what others have posted in recent weeks , there is very little to get excited about and we fans just have to bite the bullet and hope for better times ahead.....................one day.

To be fair to Kelvin, if I'd seen a full grown man starting on a 16 year old because they were in a tangle after a fair challenge, I'd have steamed in and shoved him away too.


You might do out on the streets but it is not within a player's remit to go charging in to a minor scuffle on the pitch that had nothing to do with him especially as he had already been booked.
This isn't Sunday League, it is where people are paid to do a job and Kelvin foolishly over stepped the mark having already been foolish to pick up the earlier booking and I hope the manager had a real go at him for letting his side down.

I would do on the pitch.

And I doubt anyone is very unhappy with him. You seem to be the main one with the problem

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 06 Oct 2024 20:56

Ehib was demonstrating Sunday League credentials….there is no escape in the modern professional game of var/sky/ intervvank….and besides, players have become far too precious

Give us back the days of proper handbags… Lee/Hunter, Keegan/Bremner and the likes…when dislike meant dislike and the players finished the game with bruises not bookings and bans.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by South Coast Royal » 06 Oct 2024 20:58

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Snowflake Royal To be fair to Kelvin, if I'd seen a full grown man starting on a 16 year old because they were in a tangle after a fair challenge, I'd have steamed in and shoved him away too.


You might do out on the streets but it is not within a player's remit to go charging in to a minor scuffle on the pitch that had nothing to do with him especially as he had already been booked.
This isn't Sunday League, it is where people are paid to do a job and Kelvin foolishly over stepped the mark having already been foolish to pick up the earlier booking and I hope the manager had a real go at him for letting his side down.

I would do on the pitch.

And I doubt anyone is very unhappy with him. You seem to be the main one with the problem


Er, I think that you will find that people will concur with the idea that the bloke was a twat and he needs to grow up if he is going to have a career as a pro footballer.
Fortunately for him the game was probably already lost but would you have felt the same if the game were a promotion or relegation decider?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 06 Oct 2024 21:01

Not judging by this thread.

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by Hound » 07 Oct 2024 07:00

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You might do out on the streets but it is not within a player's remit to go charging in to a minor scuffle on the pitch that had nothing to do with him especially as he had already been booked.
This isn't Sunday League, it is where people are paid to do a job and Kelvin foolishly over stepped the mark having already been foolish to pick up the earlier booking and I hope the manager had a real go at him for letting his side down.

I would do on the pitch.

And I doubt anyone is very unhappy with him. You seem to be the main one with the problem


Er, I think that you will find that people will concur with the idea that the bloke was a twat and he needs to grow up if he is going to have a career as a pro footballer.
Fortunately for him the game was probably already lost but would you have felt the same if the game were a promotion or relegation decider?


I’m not sure it makes him a ‘twat’ and I doubt it makes any difference as to whether he’ll have a career, which is already having and will continue to have

If Garcia hadn’t reacted then I’d have been more annoyed, but he did and he had a couple of players squaring up to him. I’d continue to say what Kelv did didn’t really warrant a second yellow, it was barely even a shove. I know he’s a big lad but their player massively exaggerated

I’ve no real issue with the ref being as Garcia probably did deserve the mellow

It’s not Sunday league either - you see this all the time in pro football as well. You want to stand up for your teammates, esp the young lads. Team spirit is massively impt

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by SCIAG » 07 Oct 2024 08:11

South Coast Royal the bloke was a twat and he needs to grow up if he is going to have a career as a pro footballer.

I'm disappointed with him but this is heavily overselling it.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Crusader Royal » 07 Oct 2024 09:03

Snowflake Royal Spoken to a chum who is a ref, and his view of their winner is that there is no intent to play the ball and he'd usually call foul for obstruction, but it's not a categoric error as there's not lots in it. And the FA are putting a higher threshold on upper body contact for fouls on keepers this season.


Point of interest, but there is no offence of ‘obstruction’ mentioned in the laws of the game.
It was replaced some time ago with 2 offences
1. Impeding an opponent with contact (direct free kick)
2. Impeding an opponent without contact (indirect free kick)
Of course people still use the term ‘obstruction’ but it’s not the actual offence anymore

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by RoyalBlue » 07 Oct 2024 10:27

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Snowflake Royal Spoken to a chum who is a ref, and his view of their winner is that there is no intent to play the ball and he'd usually call foul for obstruction, but it's not a categoric error as there's not lots in it. And the FA are putting a higher threshold on upper body contact for fouls on keepers this season.


Point of interest, but there is no offence of ‘obstruction’ mentioned in the laws of the game.
It was replaced some time ago with 2 offences
1. Impeding an opponent with contact (direct free kick)
2. Impeding an opponent without contact (indirect free kick)
Of course people still use the term ‘obstruction’ but it’s not the actual offence anymore


Two of their players were clearly guilty of committing offence 1 on Button immediately prior to them scoring the second. Their actions prevented him getting to the ball.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by South Coast Royal » 07 Oct 2024 10:48

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Snowflake Royal I would do on the pitch.

And I doubt anyone is very unhappy with him. You seem to be the main one with the problem


Er, I think that you will find that people will concur with the idea that the bloke was a twat and he needs to grow up if he is going to have a career as a pro footballer.
Fortunately for him the game was probably already lost but would you have felt the same if the game were a promotion or relegation decider?


I’m not sure it makes him a ‘twat’ and I doubt it makes any difference as to whether he’ll have a career, which is already having and will continue to have

If Garcia hadn’t reacted then I’d have been more annoyed, but he did and he had a couple of players squaring up to him. I’d continue to say what Kelv did didn’t really warrant a second yellow, it was barely even a shove. I know he’s a big lad but their player massively exaggerated

I’ve no real issue with the ref being as Garcia probably did deserve the mellow

It’s not Sunday league either - you see this all the time in pro football as well. You want to stand up for your teammates, esp the young lads. Team spirit is massively impt


Nonsense and referees this season are readily booking players who get involved when it has nothing to do with them.
Maybe Akande will get a game and if he does well and threatens his place in the side Kelvin might reflect more and not just think "I had to help my mate out".

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by windermereROYAL » 07 Oct 2024 11:02

Even after a win the fat cunt can`t shut up.

https://rdg.today/its-a-red-card-every- ... eading-fc/

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by Hound » 07 Oct 2024 11:13

windermereROYAL Even after a win the fat cunt can`t shut up.

https://rdg.today/its-a-red-card-every- ... eading-fc/


Any idea what the ‘wicked punch’ is referring to?

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by Snowflake Royal » 07 Oct 2024 12:39

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windermereROYAL Even after a win the fat cunt can`t shut up.

https://rdg.today/its-a-red-card-every- ... eading-fc/


Any idea what the ‘wicked punch’ is referring to?

That would be the imaginary one that their player went down clutching his face for. Possibly Garcia's hands caught him when raised to defend himself and try to throw him off from attacking him.

Other quite astounding lies... Button lost it in the summer and didn’t jump.

I've got no time for these bullshit merchants. No one is overturning the result so just be honest.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Rotherham United (a)

by Hound » 07 Oct 2024 13:57

Yes after watching a few times, I imagine it’s Garcia’s shove (which is almost certainly the one that the number 2 actually reacted to, not Kelvin’s)

Diving around holding your face after a skinny 16 year old gives you a little shove on your shoulder. Poor stuff. Silly from Garcia but that’s what you get playing a 16 year old against a wily old twat like Evans.

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