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Re: Neil Warnock

by Maguire » 10 Feb 2010 17:23

Firmly in the anti-Warnock camp. I wouldn't boo him or anything, just think he's an bombastic over-opinionated moron who'll never do anything of note in football.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Baines » 10 Feb 2010 17:30

Several years ago I mentioned to a Sheff U fan that, whilst I didn't like him, I'd like to have a manager with Warnock's passion. His response was that the "passion" was largely bullshit to cover up/draw attention away from Warnock's shortcomings as a manager.

PS It wasn't one of them, it was one of them.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by handbags_harris » 10 Feb 2010 21:51

FiNeRaIn
handbags_harris It was the lip-reading that went with it, which was pretty unequivocally an instruction to one of his players to "break his f*ckin legs". He has previous as well, at Elland Road I believe, the previous season in which he even admitted saying that.


Answer me this, do you actually hand on heart believe he meant it - or more to spice his players up? I really hope its the former. If the FA or anyone within the english game genuinly thought Neil Warnock sent his players out to injure opponents then he would be long gone. Also, to be honest that WBA side had some absolute brutes in it too.


Whether or not the West Brom team had brutes in it or not is by-the-by. It is not relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is what Warnock's team did that day, and what Warnock has allegedly said and done since.

Whether I believe what he said was meant literally, again, is not relevant. But for the record I honestly don't know. But in my opinion instructing your players to go in and "break his legs" signifies that the instructed player should go into a challenge with the intent to hurt the opponent. Neil Warnock's teams are always physical, and sometimes they push the boundaries. As for being long gone, we all know that the FA are incredibly weak when it comes to punishments, you yourself have insinuated this very point in the past FR, and in cases like this will always favour giving the accused personality the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Nick Shorey my Lord! » 11 Feb 2010 09:25

FiNeRaIn Grow up.


:lol: Pot kettle and black :lol:

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Re: Neil Warnock

by blade 1 » 14 Feb 2010 10:06

The mans a legend.

Kevin Blackwell is a replica but without any charm or carisma.

Any manager who instructs his players to go onto the field of play and try and break an opponents leg should be banned from the game for 5 years; do it twice (as Colin is known to have done) and he should be banned for life.

By bottling out of throwing the book at him as they should have done over the Battle of Brammall Lane v West Brom, the FA gave him carte blanche to carry on behaving like the ASBO he is, and I for one, would not go to a Reading game were he to become our manager, as frankly, I will never forgive him for instructing one of his players to try and break Sidwell's leg, and in the same game, tell Gillespie to elbow SHunt the moment he was subbed onto the pitch.


pretty much non of that is true.

Why do people think that he would put players on the pitch just to get sent off? Hes trying to win a football match and hes not going to do that with less than 11 men on the pitch.


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Re: Neil Warnock

by Big Foot » 14 Feb 2010 10:23

When he was Notts County manager, it's well documented that he told one of his players to "break Bully's fooking legs"

The man has previous on so many accounts

And he's generally won what? Phuck all. Big heart but one of life's losers

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Royal Rother » 14 Feb 2010 10:58

Consistently one of the highest earners in the country in any walk of life. And pretty damned successful too, if never at the highest level.

Loser? I don't think so.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by blade 1 » 14 Feb 2010 11:54

6 promotions in his career.

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by FiNeRaIn » 14 Feb 2010 17:13

Royal Rother Consistently one of the highest earners in the country in any walk of life. And pretty damned successful too, if never at the highest level.

Loser? I don't think so.


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Re: Neil Warnock

by ankeny » 14 Feb 2010 18:09

After todays game I like him even more

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Plymouth_Royal » 14 Feb 2010 18:10

He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

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by ankeny » 14 Feb 2010 18:42

Plymouth_Royal He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

He meant he works within small budgets.Any fuker given the money Mourinho had could do the same as him,Warnock has never been given the chance.

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by ankeny » 14 Feb 2010 18:43

Plymouth_Royal He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

He meant he works within small budgets.Any fuker given the money Mourinho had could do the same as him,Warnock has never been given the chance.


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Re: Neil Warnock

by Terminal Boardom » 14 Feb 2010 18:55

blade 1 6 promotions in his career.


How many managers can put that on their CV?

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Re: Neil Warnock

by susieroyal » 14 Feb 2010 19:32

How many relegations?

(not trying to wind people up, just honestly don't know)

FWIW, I think he's an idiot. I'd prefer to think that there was a bit more to being successful in football than the behaviour of Warnock. He doesn't come across as intelligent enough to ever be a manager at the top level.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by West_Reading » 14 Feb 2010 19:42

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Plymouth_Royal He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

He meant he works within small budgets.Any fuker given the money Mourinho had could do the same as him,Warnock has never been given the chance.


How many fukers can win the Champions League with Porto?

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Plymouth_Royal » 14 Feb 2010 19:43

ankeny
Plymouth_Royal He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

He meant he works within small budgets.Any fuker given the money Mourinho had could do the same as him,Warnock has never been given the chance.


Not technically true. I'm a Porto fan and have been since the age of 5. They were the first team I saw play and have supported them ever since (obviously as well as reading!). What Mourinho did there was nothing short of miraculous. Despite being the best team in Portugal they had never been successful in Europe and were always selling their star players to keep them going. Before he managed Porto he had 9 or 8 games at Benfica impressing greatly, only for a presidential change ended his employment. He then moved to a shite premier team called Uniao de Liera with less money than Aldershot and took them to their highest ever 5th placed finished. He then got snapped up by Porto and performed miracles. He turned good but not great players into champions in both the champions league and the uefa cup. Yes he did sign a lot of players for porto but the majority were from lower placed portuguese clubs that would have been signed for next to nothing (Fereirra, Maniche, Nuno and derlei to name a few) . Yes, at Chelsea he had an unlimited supply of funds but he used it so damn well, managed all the egos and stopped manchester united hold on the Premier League title.

Warnock has something like 6 promotions and had his chance at the big time with Chelsea and sunderland round 1992 or 1991?. He turned them down, It's his own choice and I think he's one of those professionals who can only do well in a small pond. But we will never know and right now Mourinho is doing bloody well for himself.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Plymouth_Royal » 14 Feb 2010 19:49

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blade 1 6 promotions in his career.


How many managers can put that on their CV?


Not many. But would you say a manager who has got a lot of lower league clubs promoted, is better than a manager who has consistently done well at the Highest level.

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Re: Neil Warnock

by susieroyal » 14 Feb 2010 19:53

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blade 1 6 promotions in his career.


How many managers can put that on their CV?


Not many. But would you say a manager who has got a lot of lower league clubs promoted, is better than a manager who has consistently done well at the Highest level.


No. Consistency at the high level is more difficult IMO.

Lots of managers have jobs for short amounts of time, make an impact and then move on/get sacked when their intitial impact wears off. If you can get a team playing well consistently for a long period of time, then you're a rare manager.

(Just realised that we are arguing the same point :oops: )

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Re: Neil Warnock

by Geekins » 14 Feb 2010 20:04

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Plymouth_Royal He's a tosser. There's no discrediting his record as manager because he's done ok, but he just a nasty pcunt. He's quite arrogant too. I remember when he was with sheff utd in the prem and he come out with this outlandish statement about how he was better than Mourinho. He's got to be off his rocker!!

He meant he works within small budgets.Any fuker given the money Mourinho had could do the same as him,Warnock has never been given the chance.


But Jose's reply was something on the lines of that he was like that but worked his way up to be the manager that can manage a club with bigger potential and more cash.

It's like normal jobs. You start off on a small salary and if you prove yourself you get a higher salary and a bigger role.

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