BFTG - QPR

[Ian Royal]

Thought Gunter did ok. Got forward a lot and put some half decent crosses in.

You would. He was tricked by the QPR wingers step over three times and kept allowing crosses in. He's also the main culprit for the slow throw ins, something the coaching team have been telling him all season too improve on.

Now I don't much like Gunter, but you can't blame the taker for things being slow if for the first 5 seconds everyone's walking away with their backs to him and the next 5 - 15 seconds only one person shows to receive the ball (slowly and predictably) at a time.

It's like criticism of the defence passing backwards and forwards between them. It's not really their fault no one ahead of them is showing for the ball and finding an angle and space.

[stealthpapes]

Throw Ins

It is like watching an Adkins team. Remember back in 2006ish when we played the multiball system, when the team were NON STOP, the ball went out... BANG, it's straight in again and we're charging towards goal.

Now, the ball goes out. Player wonders over, picks it up. No one really doing anything - Blackman walking away not looking... 10 seconds later ball played in, kicked in the air and given away.

I've been banging on about this for years and I think this is the first time anyone else has mentioned it. Unfair to pick on Blackman though as virtually all our side do the same. No-one seems interested in getting into space to support the thrower (Williams is an exception!) and nearly every time the ball ends up with the opposition.

Conversely, when the opposition have a throw we 'politely' back off and fail to make any meaningful effort to challenge for the ball. It's so basic!!

You think about how many throw-ins there are in a game and if you turn them all from 50-50 to 10-90, of course you're going to struggle.

[floyd__streete]

I find it incredible that you believe yourself to be the font of all knowledge when you don't even attend games, and rely on your mates to update you, and on that basis you can make an informed judgment.

For me it sums up everything that is wrong with this board, clearly run and influenced by armchair fans who think that everyone actually gives a s**t about their opinion

I listen to the opinions of friends who attend as I generally tend to respect (and trust) their opinions. Conversely I neither give a s**t about nor respect your opinion.

He is absolutely cringe worthy and it honestly is painful listening to this complete and utter drainer. Surely neutral fans, away fans and home fans must all feel the same way - it's just annoying.

Could clearly hear the air siren nonsense before the game, wtf is that about. Do they really think supporters get a buzz out of nonsense gimmicks such as this? Just further evidence - along with Lady Satsuma's weird song - of a moribund club totally out of touch with its supporters.

[blueroyals]

The air siren is bad, but WTF is the pirates of the caribbean music about?!

I can put up with the PA bloke so long as he's fcuked off by 14:55 but countless times this season the game has kicked off and he's still spouting off about roaring for lions with shit 80s music playing in the background.

[Lower West]

You think about how many throw-ins there are in a game and if you turn them all from 50-50 to 10-90, of course you're going to struggle.

Can no one in the term throw the ball long.

[Chelsea/Royal]

Thought Gunter did ok. Got forward a lot and put some half decent crosses in.

You would. He was tricked by the QPR wingers step over three times and kept allowing crosses in. He's also the main culprit for the slow throw ins, something the coaching team have been telling him all season too improve on.

Now I don't much like Gunter, but you can't blame the taker for things being slow if for the first 5 seconds everyone's walking away with their backs to him and the next 5 - 15 seconds only one person shows to receive the ball (slowly and predictably) at a time.

It's like criticism of the defence passing backwards and forwards between them. It's not really their fault no one ahead of them is showing for the ball and finding an angle and space.

Everton showed us up in the League cup this season. Every free kick and throw in was taken quickly leaving the Reading players looking like a load of park hoofers.

It has been painful to watch recently, last night was truly dreadful. No pace, no ideas, how many touches does Danny Williams need to control a bloody ball. How many runs does Vydra need to make before Norwood actually passes to him, instead of turning back and knocking it sideways to Gunter who then knocks it sideways blah blah blah.

Watched Clarkes's recent interviews on Sky today. What a miserable twat he is. Good riddance.

[West Stand Man]

Everton showed us up in the League cup this season. Every free kick and throw in was taken quickly leaving the Reading players looking like a load of park hoofers.

It has been painful to watch recently, last night was truly dreadful. No pace, no ideas, how many touches does Danny Williams need to control a bloody ball. How many runs does Vydra need to make before Norwood actually passes to him, instead of turning back and knocking it sideways to Gunter who then knocks it sideways blah blah blah.

Watched Clarkes's recent interviews on Sky today. What a miserable twat he is. Good riddance.

You lost my attention at the point you criticised Norwood's passing.

[RG7Fan]

Could clearly hear the air siren nonsense before the game, wtf is that about. Do they really think supporters get a buzz out of nonsense gimmicks such as this? Just further evidence - along with Lady Satsuma's weird song - of a moribund club totally out of touch with its supporters.

It seemed to be on an infinite loop for about 15-20 mins

[bobby1413]

The air siren is bad, but WTF is the pirates of the caribbean music about?!

I can put up with the PA bloke so long as he's fcuked off by 14:55 but countless times this season the game has kicked off and he's still spouting off about roaring for lions with shit 80s music playing in the background.

Ah I forgot the other thing I wanted to say about PA man ...

When SJM came out - a momentous occasion and I really have so much respect for the guy. He's done so much for Reading and RFC.

Yet they insisted on blurting out ANOTHER snippet of sweet Caroline and talking

Instead of letting fans thank him or at least have the chance to generate something close to an atmosphere

[RG7Fan]

The air siren is bad, but WTF is the pirates of the caribbean music about?!

I can put up with the PA bloke so long as he's fcuked off by 14:55 but countless times this season the game has kicked off and he's still spouting off about roaring for lions with shit 80s music playing in the background.

Ah I forgot the other thing I wanted to say about PA man ...

When SJM came out - a momentous occasion and I really have so much respect for the guy. He's done so much for Reading and RFC.

Yet they insisted on blurting out ANOTHER snippet of sweet Caroline and talking

Instead of letting fans thank him or at least have the chance to generate something close to an atmosphere

TBH I thought SJM looked 3 sheets to the wind when he came out ...

[bobby1413]

The air siren is bad, but WTF is the pirates of the caribbean music about?!

I can put up with the PA bloke so long as he's fcuked off by 14:55 but countless times this season the game has kicked off and he's still spouting off about roaring for lions with shit 80s music playing in the background.

Ah I forgot the other thing I wanted to say about PA man ...

When SJM came out - a momentous occasion and I really have so much respect for the guy. He's done so much for Reading and RFC.

Yet they insisted on blurting out ANOTHER snippet of sweet Caroline and talking

Instead of letting fans thank him or at least have the chance to generate something close to an atmosphere

TBH I thought SJM looked 3 sheets to the wind when he came out ...

He always pished at games.

FA cup - interview he was sloshed. All the speeches on special occasions - pished

Makes me love him more

[Chelsea/Royal]

Everton showed us up in the League cup this season. Every free kick and throw in was taken quickly leaving the Reading players looking like a load of park hoofers.

It has been painful to watch recently, last night was truly dreadful. No pace, no ideas, how many touches does Danny Williams need to control a bloody ball. How many runs does Vydra need to make before Norwood actually passes to him, instead of turning back and knocking it sideways to Gunter who then knocks it sideways blah blah blah.

Watched Clarkes's recent interviews on Sky today. What a miserable twat he is. Good riddance.

You lost my attention at the point you criticised Norwood's passing.

So I had your attention for a while!

Also the gap between Norwood and the attacking players is huge, meaning that he has virtually no influence in the attacking third. Not his fault.

[CountryRoyal]

Everton showed us up in the League cup this season. Every free kick and throw in was taken quickly leaving the Reading players looking like a load of park hoofers.

It has been painful to watch recently, last night was truly dreadful. No pace, no ideas, how many touches does Danny Williams need to control a bloody ball. How many runs does Vydra need to make before Norwood actually passes to him, instead of turning back and knocking it sideways to Gunter who then knocks it sideways blah blah blah.

Watched Clarkes's recent interviews on Sky today. What a miserable twat he is. Good riddance.

You lost my attention at the point you criticised Norwood's passing.

So I had your attention for a while!

Also the gap between Norwood and the attacking players is huge, meaning that he has virtually no influence in the attacking third. Not his fault.

You have a point though. Norwood's passing, as good as it is, he rarely spotted any of the attacking player's runs in behind the defence, Vydra making the most. The whole midfield were guilty of this yesterday though, and it's purely down to confidence and the fear of giving the ball away/losing, as demonstrated by our more solid, yet creatively lacking performance.

[Sutekh]

On top of the dreadful length of time it takes for players to take and make space for throw ins our corners have generally been an absolute disgrace this season.

[Millsy]

In this game I think we seriously missed Bodin, Rasiak, Kromheer, Asaba, Brayson and Scott.

[loyalroyaldaz]

Ah I forgot the other thing I wanted to say about PA man ...

When SJM came out - a momentous occasion and I really have so much respect for the guy. He's done so much for Reading and RFC.

Yet they insisted on blurting out ANOTHER snippet of sweet Caroline and talking

Instead of letting fans thank him or at least have the chance to generate something close to an atmosphere

TBH I thought SJM looked 3 sheets to the wind when he came out ...[/quote]

He always pished at games.

FA cup - interview he was sloshed. All the speeches on special occasions - pished

Makes me love him more[/quote]


Oh how wonderful that our Chairman, out man on the ground, our public face is always pissed up..
Time to go sjm, done your bit, made your name, lost a few quid, somehow managed to get most of it back now go to Mauritiaus or Necker Island or even Hayling Island and see out the rest of your days through the bottom of a glass.
Your "Reading way" hasnt exactly served is well over the past 9 years has it. Times have moved on, even Adkins moved on, so now its your turn....

[bobby1413]

Ah I forgot the other thing I wanted to say about PA man ...

When SJM came out - a momentous occasion and I really have so much respect for the guy. He's done so much for Reading and RFC.

Yet they insisted on blurting out ANOTHER snippet of sweet Caroline and talking

Instead of letting fans thank him or at least have the chance to generate something close to an atmosphere

TBH I thought SJM looked 3 sheets to the wind when he came out ...

He always pished at games.

FA cup - interview he was sloshed. All the speeches on special occasions - pished

Makes me love him more[/quote]


Oh how wonderful that our Chairman, out man on the ground, our public face is always pissed up..
Time to go sjm, done your bit, made your name, lost a few quid, somehow managed to get most of it back now go to Mauritiaus or Necker Island or even Hayling Island and see out the rest of your days through the bottom of a glass.
Your "Reading way" hasnt exactly served is well over the past 9 years has it. Times have moved on, even Adkins moved on, so now its your turn....[/quote]

God you're tiresome... "Made his name"? I think he did that in other ways than being involved in Reading football club.

His "reading way" has been just fine. Yes there was the issue with Anton - which was resolved - but we are in a far better position than most clubs.

Maybe it's time for you to move on

[loyalroyaldaz]

So you knew who he was prior to buying the club then?

Its all about opinions. I have one and so do you and we dont have to agree. But i would be seriously suprised if anybody outside of the printing industry and autotrader had heard of him before he took over Reading FC.

[CountryRoyal]

Quite frankly any one that's slates SJM for whatever perceived shortcomings they deem him to have are the most undeserving ignorant "fans" around.

What the man has done for this club is nothing short of miraculous. I suspect he was just as dissapointed how the AZ situation turned out as much as the rest of us, perhaps more.

[RG7Fan]

Quite frankly any one that's slates SJM for whatever perceived shortcomings they deem him to have are the most undeserving ignorant "fans" around.

What the man has done for this club is nothing short of miraculous. I suspect he was just as dissapointed how the AZ situation turned out as much as the rest of us, perhaps more.

The 'Reading Way' (ie to live within your means and not take too many risks) is a good way to try run a club. The problem is Football has moved on, esp. in the Prem - its no good now to be a multimillionaire, you need billions and be able to throw money at a club / or find big money sponsors. SJM was never going to be like that, and he was always a bit too conservative. If we had splashed a bit more cash in Jan 2013 we may well have stayed up and then copped bigger TV money which could have been used to keep the debt in check.

The problem was that he managed to find the only Russian billionaire who had no money, acted like he was playing a video game, made poor decisions by borrowing against future drop payments, and signed big name players on ridiculous contracts. Frankly I'm surprised SJM didn't throw the towel in during that period.