The Official Fcuck Off Jason Roberts Thread

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Black players demoralised in England, says Fifa vice-president

The head of Fifa's anti-racism task force says he was left "disheartened" after meeting "demoralised" black and ethnic minority players in England.
Jeffrey Webb said many non-white players felt they did not get chances to move into coaching or management.
He met players including Reading's Jason Roberts, who has lobbied for more diverse boardrooms in football.
Webb said: "The [English] game must reflect society and the community. It doesn't do so."
Reading striker Roberts, 35, has been in consultation with the Professional Footballers' Association in drawing up plans to ensure qualified ethnic minority coaches are on interview lists for job vacancies.
After Chris Kiwomya left Notts County by mutual consent on Sunday, there are only three black managers in the 92 clubs in the Premier League and Football League despite more than 30% of players being non-white.
Fifa vice-president Webb, who also met Yaya Toure to discuss racial abuse the Manchester City player received against CSKA Moscow, has previously called on English football to "look in the mirror and engage", given what he believes is a lack of opportunity for black and ethnic minority players in terms of senior coaching, managerial and boardroom positions.
Black managers in English football
Premier League: Chris Hughton (Norwich)
Championship: Paul Ince (Blackpool), Chris Powell (Charlton)
Football Association chairman Greg Dyke faced criticism from his own board earlier this month after a commission set up to improve the England team initially consisted entirely of white men.
Jamaica-born Heather Rabbatts, the FA's only female board member, said at the time that the opportunity to lead an informed debate on the future of English football had been "singularly damaged".
Since then, Dyke has added Manchester defender Rio Ferdinand to the commission.
But Webb feels the fact that Ferdinand is the only non-white panel member is a sign that diversity on the pitch is not being reflected off it.
He told BBC Sport: "There's a lot of young players coming through, I understand that more than 30% of the league is made up of people of African descent and over 71 different nationalities playing in the Premier League. But it's not reflected, they're not getting an opportunity.
"And many of them are becoming very demoralised and these are issues of course that we hope the FA will take on and that of the Premier League."
The lack of black and ethnic minority coaches in the game has prompted the PFA to issue a "ready-list" of qualified former players who they believe can step into vacant coaching positions.
But after what was described as a "breakthrough" meeting between the PFA and Football League chairman Greg Clarke last season, the players' union has been left disappointed by the failure of the league to discuss its "Coaching Fair Play" initiative with clubs.

[ZacNaloen]

On this matter he's spot on.

[No Fixed Abode]

As I've said before. Jason Roberts has an agenda to be controversial to get himself some sort of job regarding the treatment of ethnics in football.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Time and time again it should always be the best person for whatever role is up for selection, sex, colour, religion, persuasion etc. shouldn't come into it

As a matter of interest in all countries that are predominately white is it actually much different from the UK in the equivalent footballing scheme of things?

[ZacNaloen]

No idea, but if black footballers in the UK think the doors are closed with regards to becoming coach/manager, whether real or imagined, something needs to be done.

[No Fixed Abode]

No idea, but if black footballers in the UK think the doors are closed with regards to becoming coach/manager, whether real or imagined, something needs to be done.

It's not just black players though. Look at Adie Whitbread (Former Reading player btw). Had to look abroad for a coaching job as he couldn't get one in this Country.

But, it's all too easy for black players to play the race card.

[stealthpapes]

No idea, but if black footballers in the UK think the doors are closed with regards to becoming coach/manager, whether real or imagined, something needs to be done.

I think the "currently 30 % of footballers are black" is a bit of a misleading stat as the average manager is going to have been playing 10-20 years ago when the numbers were much, much lower.

But that said, I do agree. I think there's an issue away from the headline figures where there aren't enough black coaches (and if there's a disparity in the number of black ex-players going into coaching then that's where you want to actually look, not at a small number of actually fucking shit managers). NFL introduced a simple quota rule - that any coaching role had to have a black applicant on the shortlist - and it had a big effect.

[ZacNaloen]

I think the "currently 30 % of footballers are black" is a bit of a misleading stat as the average manager is going to have been playing 10-20 years ago when the numbers were much, much lower.

I've asked him about that before, he ignored me.

[retro_royal]

Its a simple case that white people are generally more intelligent than blacks. GCSE and A Level results back this up.

This is amplified in football whereby blacks who are genetically stronger and faster than whites get a physical advantage when it comes to playing pro football meaning whites will have to use other attributes such as intelligence.

Central midfield is probably the position whereby you most need a footballing brain. How many black central midfielders have played for England? I can only think of Paul Ince and its no coincidence he's managing.

[Ian Royal]

I think the "currently 30 % of footballers are black" is a bit of a misleading stat as the average manager is going to have been playing 10-20 years ago when the numbers were much, much lower.

I've asked him about that before, he ignored me.

Do they include sick-note, should-have-retired, money-grabbing, media whores in that 30%?

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Oh and BTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-s9oqBG5Jc

[Handsome Man]

I love Jason Roberts. I think he is fantastic for the club and fantastic for football. It seems even bigwigs from Fifa can recognise this.

He was right about the FA panel.
He is right about the under-representation of ethnic minorities in senior UK football jobs
He had his own view about Roy Hodgson's joke

Why that means he should fcuck off I don't know.

[Handsome Man]

Its a simple case that white people are generally more intelligent than blacks. GCSE and A Level results back this up.

This is amplified in football whereby blacks who are genetically stronger and faster than whites get a physical advantage when it comes to playing pro football meaning whites will have to use other attributes such as intelligence.

Central midfield is probably the position whereby you most need a footballing brain. How many black central midfielders have played for England? I can only think of Paul Ince and its no coincidence he's managing.

A pathetic fishing effort.

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I love Jason Roberts. I think he is fantastic for the club and fantastic for football. It seems even bigwigs from Fifa can recognise this.

He was right about the FA panel.
He is right about the under-representation of ethnic minorities in senior UK football jobs
He had his own view about Roy Hodgson's joke

Why that means he should fcuck off I don't know.

I think we should give them a job then because they're black, not because they deserve it. Honestly, do you not think that loads of black ex players would be coming out by now if they thought they were being discriminated against?

This twats big gob is taking advantage of the UK's bollox politically correct nature these days to fulfil his own agenda. Thank fcuk I left.

[soggy biscuit]

Black managers in English football
Premier League: Chris Hughton (Norwich)
Championship: Paul Ince (Blackpool), Chris Powell (Charlton)

Hughton has one white parent and one black parent

If Roberts is claiming him for the black team then I am also claiming him for the whites

[Handsome Man]

I love Jason Roberts. I think he is fantastic for the club and fantastic for football. It seems even bigwigs from Fifa can recognise this.

He was right about the FA panel.
He is right about the under-representation of ethnic minorities in senior UK football jobs
He had his own view about Roy Hodgson's joke

Why that means he should fcuck off I don't know.

I think we should give them a job then because they're black, not because they deserve it. Honestly, do you not think that so many black ex players would be coming out by now if they thought they were being discriminated against?

This twats big gob is taking advantage of the UK's bollox politically correct nature these days to fulfil his own agenda. Thank fcuk I left.

Nobody is demanding jobs for people who do not deserve them. A level playing field is all that is being asked for. If the current crop of black UK footballers feel there is no future for them in football, then the Fifa representative is right to mention it. If former players like John Barnes and Sol Campbell have also felt the need to complain then something might be wrong.

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[Handsome Man]

This thread isn't right.

Singling out any of our players and telling them to fcuck off is wrong for whatever reason. You can have a debate about all issues in football without descending to that kind of attack.

It should be locked and deleted.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Around 3% of the English population are Black

Three Black managers in league teams totalling 92.....sounds about mathematically correct.